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ABM Industries(ABM) - 2023 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Third quarter revenue increased by 3.4% to 2billion,withorganicgrowthof2.52 billion, with organic growth of 2.5% [5][20] - Net income rose to 98.1 million or 1.47perdilutedshare,up731.47 per diluted share, up 73% year-over-year, driven by employee retention credits and fair value adjustments [20] - Adjusted net income decreased by 16% to 52.8 million, with adjusted EPS at 0.79[21]AdjustedEBITDAwasflatat0.79 [21] - Adjusted EBITDA was flat at 125.3 million, with a margin of 6.4% compared to 6.6% last year [21] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Business and Industry (B&I) revenue declined by 1% to 1billion,withoperatingprofitdownto1 billion, with operating profit down to 78.9 million and margin at 7.7% [22] - Aviation revenue grew by 17% to 238million,markingnineconsecutivequartersofgrowth,withoperatingprofitat238 million, marking nine consecutive quarters of growth, with operating profit at 11.7 million and margin at 4.9% [22] - Manufacturing and Distribution (M&D) revenue increased by 7% to 381.9million,withoperatingprofitat381.9 million, with operating profit at 38.1 million and margin at 10% [23] - Education revenue rose by 6% to 219.1million,withoperatingprofitup10219.1 million, with operating profit up 10% to 15.9 million and margin at 7.3% [23] - Technical Solutions revenue grew by 6% to 167.9million,butfacedchallengeswithprojectdelaysandmarketsoftness[24]MarketDataandKeyMetricsChangesOfficedensityratesremainedaround50167.9 million, but faced challenges with project delays and market softness [24] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Office density rates remained around 50%, with expectations for gradual increases as clients mandate more in-office work [6][7] - The aviation market continues to see strong demand due to pent-up travel needs, with service volumes exceeding pre-pandemic levels [9] - Manufacturing and distribution segments benefited from e-commerce and logistics clients, with strong growth opportunities in semiconductor and biopharma markets [10] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on navigating challenges in commercial real estate with a flexible labor model and strategic investments in high-growth markets [18] - The ELEVATE initiative aims to enhance technology and operational efficiency, with significant progress reported in the education segment [16] - The company anticipates some revenue pressure in 2024 due to softness in the commercial office sector but remains committed to long-term growth [19] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged the impact of macroeconomic factors, including interest rates and hybrid work models, on the commercial real estate market [32][40] - The company expects adjusted EPS for 2024 to be slightly down from 2023, primarily due to pressures in the B&I segment [19][60] - Management remains optimistic about the long-term potential of the Technical Solutions segment, particularly in EV charging and microgrid services [15][24] Other Important Information - The company ended Q3 with total debt of 1.4 billion and available liquidity of 582.6million[25]Freecashflowforthequarterwasstrongat582.6 million [25] - Free cash flow for the quarter was strong at 138 million, with share repurchases totaling $27.1 million [25] Q&A Session Summary Question: Expectations for commercial real estate market and ELEVATE goals - Management indicated that the structural shift in commercial real estate may push out ELEVATE goals by a couple of years but remains committed to achieving targets [32] Question: Status of Technical Solutions projects - No cancellations reported; delays are due to permitting and utility issues, with projects expected to proceed [34] Question: Impact of interest rates and project delays - Interest rates have plateaued, and while some projects are delayed, the company remains optimistic about future growth in Technical Solutions [38] Question: Revenue pressure in M&D segment - Revenue compression expected due to a large client's rebid process, but overall growth in M&D is still anticipated [43] Question: Labor market conditions - Positive signs in labor market participation, but wage inflation remains a challenge [56] Question: Clarification on EPS outlook - EPS may be impacted by the mix of business, particularly with B&I being a significant portion of revenue [59]