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Douglas Emmett(DEI) - 2023 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Revenue increased by 2% compared to Q4 2022, partly due to higher multifamily revenues and ground rent [83] - FFO decreased by 12% to $0.46 per share, primarily due to higher interest expenses [84] - AFFO decreased by 8.1% to $74.6 million [84] - Same-property cash NOI decreased by 1.1%, but adjusting for one-time tax refunds, residential cash same-property NOI would have been positive 3.3% [84] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - In 2023, the company signed 872 office leases totaling 3.2 million square feet, averaging 800,000 square feet per quarter [78] - In Q4, 2023, 202 office leases were signed covering 710,000 square feet, including 243,000 square feet of new leases and 467,000 square feet of renewals [78] - Cash spreads were down 6.1%, reflecting strong annual rent increases built into leases [79] - Residential properties ended the year at 98.5% leased [80] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company noted that remote work has not significantly reduced demand from tenants [72] - The overall leasing environment remains cautious due to recession fears, impacting large tenant commitments [58][60] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on finding new opportunities in both residential and office markets, leveraging significant cash on hand and strong JV relationships [76] - The company anticipates lower FFO in 2024 due to the move out of a large tenant and higher interest costs, but sees potential for recovery in leasing demand as tenant confidence increases [72][86] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about long-term market prospects, citing a strong supply-demand dynamic and the return of office tenants [74][61] - The company expects that as interest rates stabilize, tenant interest will return, leading to improved leasing activity [60][61] Other Important Information - The company completed the lease-up of its 376-unit Landmark L.A. property and is progressing on an office-to-residential conversion in Honolulu [76] - A significant tenant signed an early renewal for 250,000 square feet shortly after the quarter end [72] Q&A Session Summary Question: How are you thinking about interest rates in the next year or two? - Management indicated that they typically do a seven-year loan and swap five years of it, focusing on refinancing as swaps come due [89] Question: Can you provide an update on Barrington Plaza's insurance proceeds and litigation? - Management stated that they feel the property is insured and are dealing with ongoing litigation, which is disruptive but insured [95] Question: What are your thoughts on leasing trends and tenant commitments? - Management noted that large tenants are hesitant to make commitments, while smaller tenants are more active [58][60]