It's not about trust but about 'verification': John Kirby on potential U.S.-Iran talks

Joining us, former senior spokesman for the Pentagon, the State Department and White House, retired Rear Admiral John Kirby. He's an MSNOW National Security ADMIRAL, HOW DO YOU NEGOTIATE WHEN NEITHER side trusts the other. Yeah, it's certainly tough.I mean, look, the essence of diplomatic negotiations mean if you're in negotiations, you're probably across the table from somebody who you've got issues with, and there's probably going to be a little bit of a lack of trust. There are no doubt about it. But wha ...