Gundlach on Treasuries, Gold, Fed, AI, Private Credit, Trump

LISA: -- THE OUTLOOK FOR CREDIT INVESTING MORE BROADLY. YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW THE U.S. IS GOING TO GO BANKRUPT AND IS ON AN UNSUSTAINABLE FISCAL PATH. DO WE SEE THAT PRICED IN OR IS THERE STILL A RECKONING TO COME.JEFFREY: IT'S CERTAINLY BEHAVING DIFFERENTLY THAN IT WAS FOR THE LAST FOUR DECADES. WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS IN THE LAST 15 YEARS THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF CORRECTIONS ON THE S&P 500 AND EVERY ONE OF THEM, THE S&P WAS DOWN MORE THAN 10%, THE DOLLAR INDEX, THE TRADE-WEIGHTED DOLLAR INDEX GOES UP. THIS TIME ...