Trump says he turned down visit to Epstein's island

Joining us now, MSNBC legal correspondent Lisa Rubin, independent journalist Philip Bump, and MSNBC contributor, former US attorney, and former senior FBI official Chuck Rosenberg. And Chuck, we'll start with you. Um, how unconventional is it to have the assistant AG, yes, the second in command at the DOJ, meet with a potential witness, and let's not forget that this is Trump's former personal attorney in all of this.So, is there a conflict of interest. So Ariel, uh, the Justice Department's been around for ...