'Slap in the face to victims': Reaction to Maxwell prison transfer

Let's discuss with NBC News national law enforcement correspondent Tom Winter, MSNBC legal correspondent Lisa Rubin, and Eric Fidali, a managing attorney at the Bloom firm who has represented some Epstein survivors. Lisa, let's start with this meeting that we're learning of that's expected to happen with the vice president involving all these other players at the Justice Department. How unusual of a meeting is this and especially if they're talking strategy with the White House related to a DOJ case.Well, I ...