A lot still needs to happen before Ukraine-Russia peace deal: intelligence expert Kendall-Taylor

So, what does today's historic meeting mean and what can we expect next. Well, Atlantic Council President and CEO Fred Kemp and Andrea Kendall Taylor, former deputy national intelligence officer for Russia and Eurasia both join me now. It's great to have you both.Fred, I'm going to kick this off with you. Ceasefire versus a a big broad peace deal. Do you need one to get to the other.And if not, is a trilateral agreement the next step uh in a move forward. >> Yeah. So, so thank you for that question.I I was ...