Will Democrats or Republicans blink first as the U.S. hurdles toward a shutdown?

Joining me right now, we have MSNBC White House correspondent Laura Baron and Capitol Hill reporter Kevin Fry along with Shenika McClendon, vice president political strategy at Crooked Media and former Florida representative and MSNBC political analyst Carlos Carbelloo. It's a big panel here. Um Laura, you know, I want to pick up with something that uh Yamisha just said.When the president told her that, yeah, we're going to be, you know, getting rid of a lot of people, but I'd rather not do that. Can't he t ...