Who will a government shutdown hurt the most? Americans just 'trying to make a living'

Let's bring in former Democratic Senator John Tester from Montana and MSNBC political analyst. David Ducker is senior writer at The Dispatch and an MSNBC contributor. Guys, it's good to see you.Look, both sides say they don't want a shutdown. I can say I don't think the American people would like to have a shutdown. Go out on a limb there.Senator, you know these players. Uh you serve next to most of them. What do you think is going on behind the scenes, if anything.And is there someone you think who could b ...