'Lying thru their teeth': Joe slams GOP shutdown talking point

We can do things during the shutdown that are irreversible that are bad for them and irreversible by them like cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that they like, cutting programs that they like. They're taking a risk by having a shutdown because because of the shutdown, we can do things medically and other ways including benefits. We can cut large numbers of people out. We don't want to do that. But we don't want fraud, waste, and abuse. But they want to have illegal aliens come into our cou ...