'So many other options': Ex-DHS official criticizes Trump's National Guard deployment

Joining us now, MSNBC senior national and political correspondent Jacob Soof, who's in Chicago for us, former DHS assistant secretary for counterterrorism and threat prevention, Samantha Vinegrad, and back with us, former Ohio Governor John Kasich. Sam, I do want to begin with you on this because the president is making broad claims about what's happening in Portland and and Portlanders are saying that's not happening. Officials there are saying that's not happening.The federal judge who reviewed the Nation ...