Branch: We're entering a cyclical recovery

So, I think everybody's trying to figure out what to make of this market right now. I want to ask you not about an investment but a trade. Right now, it seems like one of the more attractive uh trades in the market right now with the government shutdown, trade tensions, also questions about the labor market would be VIX futures.Do you see it that way as well or are you seeing some other opportunities with all this volatility. >> Right. I I might say that that trade is happening uh in spite of those um seemi ...