'Pod Save America' co-hosts: Dems need a leader 'more charismatic than ever before'

what he's doing is already wildly unpopular. You've got the Republicans totally um hostage to things that there are decades of tape of them opposing all the policies they're now greenlighting, whether it's tariffs, whether it's extrajudicial strikes um by the military. I mean, what is sort of the the moment look like to you.Are were we waiting for a leader to emerge. Are we waiting for the shock to wear off. Like what what phase of this do you think we're in.I I mean, I think the first phase is winning thes ...