Environment of 'fear, chaos, horror': Fmr. ICE official reacts to Trump's crackdown in MN

Joining us MSNOW reporter Alex Tabbi from Minneapolis, MSNOW senior investigative reporter Carol Lennig, former chief of staff for ICE in the Biden administration Jason Hauser and Washington Post technology reporter Drew Harwell because we have another story to get to as well. I do want to start with you Jason just because you know the force and you know circumstances better than most of us what do you make of the ICE explanation here that it was the officers who were taking care of this boy not the father ...