Report: Vatican official says Pope Leo XIV may not visit U.S. under Trump

Joining me now, directing Democracy Together founding director Bill Crysta Bill, what does this administration stand to gain from picking a fight with the very popular leader of a billion and a half Catholics. I mean, not much, I would say, but they pick a lot of fights, and they don't like dissent. They don't like dissent from people here at home. They don't like dissent from European allies who have a different view of foreign policy and foreign policy issues.They seem not to like it when the Pope gives a ...