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'Crazy eating its own tail': MAGA turning against Trump over Epstein files
MSNBC· 2025-07-17 20:47
MAGA is eating itself alive over Jeffrey Epstein. So is Donald Trump himself for dessert. Joining us now, former Republican congressman and author of The Breach: The Untold Story of the Investigation into January 6, Denver Wgleman, managing editor of The Bull Work and MSNBC contributor Sam Stein and senior reporter for The Bull Work and author of Trust the Plan, the rise of QAnon, and the conspiracy that reshaped the world.Will summer. Well, this is um this fever swamp is the one that you dwell in most, so ...
Trump exposed as the 'unaccountable elite' his supporters sent him to attack
MSNBC· 2025-07-16 23:11
Political Analysis - Trump's movement is built on the idea that elites are taking advantage of his followers [1] - Trump is seen as an embodiment of the elite, despite his anti-elite rhetoric [2][3] - Democrats are attempting to position themselves as the true anti-elite party [4] Policy & Economic Impact - Rising inflation is attributed in part to Trump's tariffs [5] - Promised trade deals have not materialized [5] - Healthcare policies are facing backlash, with attempts to roll back Medicaid cuts [6] - Immigration policies are losing support due to perceived cruelty [6] Trump's Challenges - Trump lacks transparency and faces scrutiny regarding his associations [3][4] - Trump's administration struggles to find positive issues to focus on [5] - Trump is losing support on key issues [6] - Trump faces a difficult situation with no clear solutions [7]
Trump's Epstein turmoil triggers MAGA meltdown
MSNBC· 2025-07-16 22:30
Public Opinion & Political Implications - The report suggests a significant portion of Trump supporters reacted negatively to the official memo regarding Jeffrey Epstein's death and the alleged non-existence of a client list [1] - The public expresses disbelief in the Justice Department's official narrative surrounding the Epstein case, perceiving it as an attempt to suppress further discussion [2] - There is a sentiment that the Trump administration, initially promising transparency, is now implicated in a cover-up, leading to disillusionment among supporters [3] - Trump's MAGA base is reportedly seeking someone to blame, resulting in internal conflicts within the Trump administration [4] Conspiracy & Mistrust - The report indicates a widespread belief in conspiracy theories related to the Epstein case, with accusations of cover-ups involving the intelligence community and the Trump administration [3] - The public feels insulted and believes their intelligence is being undermined by the perceived lack of transparency and the official explanations provided [2]
Trump's Epstein crisis EXPLODES: Fallout triggers MAGA revolt & plunges admin into chaos
MSNBC· 2025-07-15 23:35
Political Commentary & Public Opinion - The report highlights a perceived failure of Donald Trump to quell the Epstein story, leading to a revolt among MAGA pundits and influencers [1] - It notes the growing MAGA anger and demand for the release of the Epstein client list, suggesting this is a key motivating issue for Trump's base [1] - The analysis points out a shift in Fox News' coverage, downplaying the Epstein controversy in favor of other topics [1] - The report suggests Trump's base may feel betrayed if they perceive a cover-up related to the Epstein case [1] Transparency & Accountability - The report criticizes the lack of transparency from the Trump administration regarding the Epstein files [2][3] - It mentions accusations that the administration is behaving like the "deep state" by refusing to be transparent [2][3] - The report references Trump's past vows to declassify the Epstein files and questions his current reluctance [2] Cognitive Dissonance & Conspiracy Theories - The analysis discusses how Trump's followers manage cognitive dissonance regarding his personal behavior by embracing conspiracy theories about sex trafficking and a "deep state" [3] - It suggests that some followers may be avoiding the idea that Trump is protecting himself in the Epstein case [3][4]
GOP BLOCKS move to force release of Epstein files
MSNBC· 2025-07-15 17:25
Political Strategy & Influence - Trump's team is pressuring conservative influencers to downplay the Epstein issue, indicating political urgency [1] - A 2021 survey revealed that 10% of Republican voters believed in QAnon conspiracy theories, highlighting the potential political fallout [1] - The White House is actively influencing conservative figures like Charlie Kirk and Denise Duza to control the narrative [1] Public Perception & MAGA Movement - MAGA supporters may not easily dismiss the Epstein issue despite influencers' attempts to move on [1][2] - The base expects accountability and transparency, making it difficult to simply forget the issue [1][2] - Conspiracy theories surrounding the case are self-perpetuating, regardless of evidence [20] Transparency & Legal Challenges - Laura Trump suggests more information will be released, contingent on protecting witnesses and underage individuals [4][5][17] - The DOJ and FBI claim they've released all possible information, citing sealed documents and victim protection [6][7] - There's a political mandate to release something to appease the base, despite legal and ethical constraints [8] Democratic Strategy & Political Opportunity - Democrats aim to capitalize on the rift within Trump's coalition regarding the Epstein files [11] - House Democrats attempted to force disclosure of the Epstein files [10] - Democrats are developing a program to engage voters and highlight Republican lies [27] Congressional Reactions & Division - Most Republicans are hesitant to address the Epstein issue, caught between Trump and the MAGA movement [11][12] - Some Republicans support transparency, while others downplay the issue's importance to their constituents [13][14] - A Republican crossed party lines to support an amendment for releasing the Epstein files [15]
'Profoundly stupid political screw up': Maddow on Trump admin. handling of Epstein files
MSNBC· 2025-07-15 16:41
Political Analysis - The report suggests President Trump failed to deliver on promises regarding the release of Epstein files [1] - Senator Osaf highlighted the bewilderment and frustration among Trump's supporters regarding the Epstein case [2][4] - The analysis indicates a "deeply, deeply, profoundly stupid political screw-up" by Trump's administration concerning the handling of the Epstein issue [4] Conspiracy Theories & Information Control - The report mentions conspiracy theories surrounding Jeffrey Epstein [2][3][4] - The administration initially suggested revealing information about the Epstein case but then abruptly announced an end to discussions and information release [3]
'Disconnected': Does Trump realize just how bad the Epstein fallout is?
MSNBC· 2025-07-15 04:22
Geopolitical & Policy Shifts - The US administration is considering imposing new tariffs on Russia if a peace deal is not reached within 50 days [1] - The US administration is threatening 30% tariffs on crucial trading partners like Mexico and Europe if an agreement isn't reached by August 1st [7] Political Backlash & Base Division - The US President is facing backlash from his base (MAGA) regarding the handling of the "Epstein files" [4] - The President's Truth Social post backing Pam Bondi received more replies than likes and reposts, indicating strong disapproval from his supporters [6] - The MAGA base largely opposes helping Ukraine, creating a divide within the President's support [3] Media & Narrative Control - The President's disconnection from MAGA media and alternative media platforms (like Joe Rogan, Tim Dillon) is causing him to underestimate the backlash [19][20] - Fox News mentioned Joe Biden 85 times between yesterday and 4 PM today, while only mentioning Epstein fleetingly, indicating a potential disconnect in the narrative [22][23] - The President's ability to shape and drive narratives through the echo chamber is diminishing due to his focus on Fox News [21][22] Conspiracy Theories & Trust - The base feels misled regarding the "Epstein client list," leading to anger and distrust [10][11][12] - Feeding the base conspiracy theories requires delivering on them, which the administration has failed to do in the case of the Epstein files [14][15]
Will attention now turn to AG Bondi over handing of Epstein files?
MSNBC· 2025-07-14 11:34
Conspiracy Theories & Political Fallout - The MAGA base believes a "deep state" is covering up crimes, potentially linked to the Epstein case, against Donald Trump and the American people [5] - Some believe hidden information in the Epstein records could embarrass the security state [6] - Anger is being redirected away from Trump towards Pam Bondi regarding the release of Epstein files [8] - Trump's history of promoting conspiracy theories is now backfiring as he struggles to control the Epstein narrative [10][14] - The White House is trying to change the subject of conversation to move past the Epstein issue [36] Key Individuals & Internal Conflicts - Dan Bongino and Kash Patel pushed for the release of Epstein files more than Trump [8] - There's internal conflict, with accusations that Pam Bondi is seeking too much attention [17] - A Justice Department review of the files led to a statement crafted with input from most involved, except Bongino and Patel [18] - Bongino reportedly had a confrontation with Bondi and Blanche, potentially due to backlash from his base [21] - There are efforts to mend fences within MAGA world, with some trying to explain why the files can't be released [22][23] Epstein Files & Investigation - Reporting suggests there is no client list in the Epstein files [19][25] - The files contain pictures of victims, grand jury information, and unfounded allegations [19] - Career prosecutors and FBI agents do not recommend releasing the raw file information [19] - The federal government conducted a comprehensive investigation after initial issues in Florida [27] - Everyone who was prosecutable in this case was prosecuted [28]
Former Rep. Max Rose: Trump is 'clearly hiding something' on Epstein
MSNBC· 2025-07-14 10:45
Political Analysis - The discussion revolves around the potential political fallout for Donald Trump due to renewed scrutiny of his past association with Jeffrey Epstein [2][4][5] - A key concern is whether Trump's base feels betrayed or disrespected, potentially impacting his support [2][11][24] - Some analysts believe Trump's usual tactics of deflection or blaming others may not be sufficient to quell the issue [8][17][19] - The situation is exacerbated by figures like Elon Musk injecting capital and attention into the matter, and influential voices like Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson amplifying concerns [9][10] - Democrats are urged to connect this issue to a broader narrative of Trump's perceived failures to deliver on promises and instances of alleged deception [12][16] Key Figures and Potential Scapegoats - Pam Bondi is identified as a potential scapegoat, facing backlash from the MAGA base [7][9][17] - Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson are highlighted as significant political threats due to their influence over Trump's base [10] - Elon Musk's involvement is seen as adding fuel to the fire, potentially intensifying the scrutiny on Trump [9][10] Conspiracy Theories and Public Perception - The Epstein case resonates with QAnon-type supporters and the broader MAGA base due to its themes of exploitation of young girls [5] - The lack of perceived answers and justice in the Epstein case is fueling anger and distrust among Trump's supporters [6] - Conspiracy theories surrounding the Epstein case are seen as having a self-perpetuating nature, making it difficult to fully resolve public concerns [20]
'You can tell Trump is very frustrated': Fmr. Trump WH spox on president's Epstein social media post
MSNBC· 2025-07-13 23:19
Political Commentary & Public Opinion - The discussion revolves around Trump's reaction to the resurfacing of the Jeffrey Epstein case and the potential impact on his supporters [2][4][5] - Trump is perceived as frustrated with the news cycle surrounding Jeffrey Epstein and is expected to attempt to shift the focus [2][5] - Trump's supporters are seen as having a right to be upset and demand answers regarding the Epstein case, as it aligns with Trump's previous campaign promises [3][4] - The MAGA base is expressing dissatisfaction and a sense of betrayal regarding the lack of answers and transparency surrounding the Epstein investigation [15][16] - There's a perception that the administration has been untruthful, leading to a bizarre alternate reality and fueling conspiracy theories [9][11][12] Key Figures & Their Stances - Pam Bondi is under scrutiny for her past statements about releasing the Epstein list and the current lack of transparency [3][8][14] - Laura Loomer, a far-right conspiracy theorist, is seen as having influence and access to the president, raising concerns [29][30][31] Potential Political Ramifications - The Epstein issue could potentially divide the MAGA coalition, especially in heavily Republican districts [20][21] - Democrats and moderate Republicans are encouraged to persistently question the inconsistencies and lack of transparency surrounding the Epstein case [22][23] - Trump's dismissive attitude towards the Epstein issue is likely to further enrage his supporters [27][28]