We have all seen before a politician step in it in real time. And I think that's what you just saw. A president who realized as he was answering, oh man, I don't really know what to say and and probably revealed a lot more than he wanted to cuz yeah, there's a lot of questions right now. And I think probably questions that are going to dog him for a while until he does clarify it. He can brush aside an NBC reporter for for a moment, but there's a lot of people who care about this. And this is pretty serious ...

This is the story that has consumed Donald Trump as president for many days now, but of course as a candidate for many months when he sold a certain version of it. His history with Epstein and those people and those victims are all something that he has had time to reflect on and he seems to be unable to clearly explain what he did then, what the nature of their relationship was, how it ended, what he did or didn't say to him at the time. Maybe they were friends without any other crimes.But why deny and sue ...

The agenda of this president in this summer period is completely smothered by his mishandling of Epstein. Their prior relationship, their social links, the first administration, where, as I've reminded you, Jeffrey Epstein died under suspicious circumstances under the Trump DOJ custody, and all the recent broken promises. Now we have what has become a bizarre turn in a story that for some people on the right was always a conspiracy content thing but of course rests on a foundation of real crimes, real victi ...

Tara, I wonder if you can sort of tell me how much what Trump said is new. I mean, the line from the press secretary had simply been um that that he had a falling out with Epstein because Epstein was a cre. I don't know that we'd heard the specificity with which Trump decided he was a cre.It was because he was quote stealing employees from the spa and that they included True. Um Go ahead. Yeah, sorry.I I have to interject on this because when I when I heard that I was just I was it was it's just not true. U ...

And joining us now is Barry Lavine, former executive editor of the National Inquirer. He's also the author of The Spider: Inside the Criminal Web of Jeffrey Epstein and Galain Maxwell. Barry, great to have you here.Thank you, Anna. So, you have covered this case for decades or at least over a decade now. I know you believe all the files should be released minus absolutely the stuff that would be victim's identities.So that should be redacted and the identity of third parties too. Okay. So the identity of th ...

Now, somewhere in the Treasury Department, Mr. . President, locked away in a cabinet drawer, is a big Epstein file that's full of actionable information. Follow the money details about his financing and operations that await investigation.Senator Ron Weiden, the top Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee, has been ringing alarms that those who want more information on Jeffrey Epstein's past offenses need to follow the money. For the last three years, his office has been looking into Epstein's financial ne ...

Escaping the extreme heat of Washington, political and otherwise, for this five-day private visit to Scotland. President Trump on the tea at one of his family-owned golf courses. But European officials are ready to meet, including UK Prime Minister Kier Starmer.And tomorrow, the EU president, who's working toward a tariff deal for her 27 nation block with the European Union. And I think we have a good 50/50 chance. That's a lot.But deflecting on the controversy around the Jeffrey Epstein files, you make it ...

I want to bring in NBC's Aaron Gilchrist in Tallahassee. David Ducker is senior writer at The Dispatch. Here with me in studio is former federal prosecutor and MSNBC legal analyst Paul Butler along with Simone Sanders Townsend, former chief spokesperson for Vice President Harris and co-host of The Weeknight. Paul, take us inside that room. What's your best assessment knowing how these things can work? And we know this is not regular, but what's happening now? What are the discussions? uh they're trying to f ...

Joining us now, NBC News justice reporter Ryan Riley, MSNBC legal analyst and former federal prosecutor Christy Greenberg, and MSNBC political analyst and chief White House correspondent at the New York Times, Peter Baker. So Ryan, what's the latest we're hearing from the Justice Department about today's discussions with Maxwell. you know, so they yesterday they came out and said that there, you know, the defense attorney said that they had these ongoing meetings that she was, you know, honest.But I I think ...

This woman is a monster, okay? She's somebody who would go to recruit the little girls for Jeffrey Epstein. Anybody who's got a child in summer camp right now, she would go to the summer camps to find them and then she would groom them so they would feel comfortable with him and then she would abuse them and he would abuse them. That's who the Department of Justice decided to talk to today. So, when you're dealing with a monster, you can cooperate a monster. That that is possible. The first thing they have ...