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Onto Innovation(ONTO) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-08-07 21:30
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Onto Innovation reported revenue of $253.6 million for Q2 2025, representing a 5% year-over-year increase [14] - Gross margin for Q2 was 54.5%, which would have been approximately 55% excluding $1.1 million in tariff-related expenses [15][17] - Operating margin was 25.9%, near the high end of the expected range, attributed to productivity gains in R&D and operations [15] - Earnings per share for the quarter was $1.25, impacted by unfavorable foreign exchange losses and an increase in the effective tax rate to 16% [16] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Advanced nodes revenue was $89 million, accounting for 35% of Q2 revenue [16] - Specialty devices and advanced packaging revenue reached $117 million, representing 46% of total revenue [16] - Software and services revenue was $48 million, or 19% of total revenue [16] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company expects a rebound in revenue in the fourth quarter, consistent with levels reported in the first two quarters of 2025 [11][13] - Demand for AI packaging is anticipated to drive a significant increase in revenue, with expectations of at least a 50% quarter-over-quarter increase in Q4 [10] - Advanced node spending is expected to pause in Q3 but is projected to increase in Q4, with advanced nodes revenue expected to nearly double compared to 2024 [12][18] Company Strategy and Development Direction - Onto Innovation announced a strategic agreement to acquire product lines from Semi Lab International, expected to close pending regulatory approvals [4][6] - The acquisition is projected to add over $130 million in annual revenue and be immediately accretive to gross and operating margins [6] - The company is focusing on expanding its portfolio in inspection and metrology systems to address new challenges in advanced nodes and packaging [5][24] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in a revenue rebound in Q4, driven by strong customer demand and increased spending in AI packaging [11][13] - The company is taking a prudent approach to manage operating costs while ensuring R&D capabilities are not significantly impacted [21] - The ramp-up of a regional manufacturing strategy is expected to enhance operational resilience and mitigate tariff-related exposure [20][24] Other Important Information - Cash from operations was $58 million, representing a 95% cash conversion of non-GAAP net income for the quarter [17] - The company ended the quarter with approximately $895 million in cash and investments, an increase of $44 million from Q1 [17] - Anticipated tariff expenses for Q3 and Q4 are expected to be around $2 million to $3 million each quarter [19] Q&A Session Summary Question: Follow-up on Next Gen Dragonfly and customer milestones - Management confirmed significant milestones achieved with a key customer and ongoing reliability testing before shipping high-quality products [28][30] Question: Factors influencing Q4 revenue range - The revenue range for Q4 is primarily driven by customer demand rather than specific programs, with strong demand for AI packaging tools noted [33][34] Question: Next Gen Dragonfly shipping timeline and growth potential - Tools are on track to be shipped this year, with expectations for strong growth driven by various applications [37][40] Question: Subsurface defect inspection demand - Demand for subsurface defect inspection is coming from multiple customers across various applications, not limited to one customer [46][48] Question: Importance of Next Gen Dragonfly platform - The platform is considered crucial for defending existing positions in high-performance metrology, with significant advancements over previous technologies [50] Question: Semi Lab acquisition and growth expectations - The acquisition is expected to provide above-average growth opportunities, with synergies to be discussed post-closing [80][82]