I think we're all looking ahead to this fifth meeting, this fifth meeting, this fifth summit. Um, very quickly, what was your take on this previous summit that just happened in Madrid. And what are your expectations for the one coming up.>> Well, honestly, Frank, I think, uh, you hit on this a little bit. We have been now after the Madrid round four rounds in and still we've only been talking about sort of tactical short-term issues. None of these dialogues have yet to address the underlying issues that ani ...