Joining us now is Von Hillyard. He's MSNBC's senior White House correspondent. He's also an Arizona native who has covered Charlie Kirk's rise in conservative politics extensively.So, I mean there I think a lot of people watching have heard of Charlie Kirk um but don't maybe know about all about how he got to be where he is. When did when did you first become aware of Charlie. I think it was sometime in 2015 2016 and I think the Arizona native part of this is relevant because that's where he and his family ...