Let's turn now to cyber security. A new documentary podcast out this week examines China's rise to cyber supremacy and the state sponsored hackers haunting America's infrastructure. Joining us now, Nicole Pearl Roth, former cyber security reporter at the New York Times and the host of To Catch a Thief: China's Rise to Cyber Supremacy.She's also the author of This Is How They Tell Me the World Ends, an expose on the global cyber arms race. And she served on the Department of Homeland Security Cyber Security ...