Joining us now, MSNBC senior legal reporter Lisa Rubin, MSNBC White House reporter Laura Baron Lopez, Baron Lopez, excuse me, and Punch Bowl co-founder and MSNBC political analyst Jake Sherman. All right, so um I I want to begin with you, Jake, on what's happening on Capitol Hill. How how significant is this release.What is the expectation. >> The release is huge. I mean, it's it's remarkable in a few in a few respects, Katie.Number one, this is a House controlled by Republicans and a committee controlled b ...

Discharge potential. The Epstein discharge. >> No, it has has nothing to do with that at all.>> You guys are experts at red herrings and distraction. Has nothing to do with Epstein. >> They're becoming experts at distraction and red herrings.This has absolutely nothing to do about Epstein. This is a scheduling matter. >> That was House Speaker Mike Johnson insisting three times in the past 24 hours that he is not holding off on swearing in a duly-eleed Democratic congresswoman to avoid a vote on releasing t ...

So, this has been the Trump damage control playbook, and there have been a lot of parts of it. But the victims and survivors of Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell are not letting it go, and neither are members of Congress. Today, 10 survivors of Epste's abuse spoke about their experiences behind closed doors with members of the House Oversight Committee.Some of them are among a group of survivors who are expected to speak to reporters tomorrow alongside Republican Congressman Thomas Massie of K Kentucky and ...