They have gutted our programs. They have they have, like you said, dehumanized employees. What are we going back to, right.It's broken. And so, at some point, someone has to stop the bleeding, but I I'm a firm believer that you can hold more than one truth at a time. Yeah, we need to get paid.And being out here, I think people don't necessarily understand we can't do GoFundMes. It is against the law. We can't go get another job.That is against the law. Um, and so there are there's no unemployment. You got t ...

Joining us now, Alda Ala Thomas, president of AFGE Local 2139, representing workers at the Department of Labor in five different states. As of October 1st, she has been furoughed. Alda, you and I spoke a few weeks back when the shutdown was just getting underway, and you and your husband are both federal government employees.You're both still furled as we mentioned. So, how is this shutdown, 23 days in, affecting your financial life and your ability to plan for your family. It gets harder every day.Um I, yo ...