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Welltower(WELL) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-02-12 15:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported a normalized FFO per share increase of 18% year over year, driven by the senior housing operating portfolio [4][10] - Total portfolio same store NOI growth was 12.8%, with the senior housing operating portfolio achieving 23.9% growth [21][41] - The company ended the quarter with a net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of 3.49 times, a decrease of 1.5 turns from the end of 2023 [45] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The senior housing operating business experienced nearly 24% same store NOI growth, marking the ninth consecutive quarter of growth exceeding 20% [5][21] - The outpatient medical business showed stable performance with a year-over-year same store NOI growth of 2% [21] - The senior housing triple net portfolio had a same store NOI increase of 5.1% year over year, with EBITDAR coverage reaching a post-COVID high of 1.12 times [42] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The U.S. commercial real estate debt market faces significant challenges, with $1 trillion of loans maturing in 2025 [31][32] - Regional banks, which hold a significant portion of CRE debt, are experiencing difficulties due to high long-term interest rates [32][34] - The company capitalized on market dislocations, acquiring properties at attractive valuations due to other industry participants being compelled to divest assets [35][36] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on capital deployment, having closed $7 billion in transactions in 2024, with a strong start to 2025 already seeing $2 billion in acquisitions under contract [9][14] - The company emphasizes a capital light strategy, transitioning properties to stronger operating partners to enhance cash flow [15][44] - A sixth growth pillar was introduced with the launch of a private funds management business, expected to create significant revenue opportunities [18] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism for continued growth in 2025, citing strong fundamentals in the senior housing sector and favorable demographic trends [4][12] - The company anticipates sustained improvement in margins due to high operating leverage and the benefits of its operating platform build-out [8][26] - Management highlighted the importance of retaining talent and fostering a strong company culture as key to long-term success [70][72] Other Important Information - The company achieved 23% revenue growth, 26% EBITDA growth, and nearly 20% FFO per share growth for the full year of 2024 while deleveraging its balance sheet [10][45] - The company is actively working on digital transformation initiatives to enhance operational efficiency and improve resident and employee experiences [16][29] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you provide insights on pricing power across occupancy bands within the Shaw portfolio and details on the $2 billion acquisitions pipeline? - The $2 billion acquisitions involve assets with low 80s occupancy, generally newer vintage assets [61] - For assets over 90% occupied, RevPAR growth has been in the sixes, while those below 70% are roughly flat [62][63] Question: With fewer deliveries in the development cycle, does this make acquiring lease-up properties more challenging? - The company maintains a long-term track record of success in finding underperforming buildings, indicating a continued ability to optimize NOI [66][68] Question: How does the company approach talent retention? - Retaining talent is a top priority, with a strong emphasis on creating a culture of trust and shared purpose [70][72] Question: Can you discuss the targeted IRRs for stabilized versus non-stabilized assets in the private funds management business? - No specific details were provided on targeted IRRs, but the company emphasizes its focus on growth investments rather than yield investments [77] Question: How large will the same store bucket of assets be this year versus the total pool? - By the fourth quarter, over 90% of the current portfolio is expected to be in the same store pool, with non-same store assets showing potential for better NOI growth as occupancy increases [80][83]