Secretary Kennedy told me he could not trust me. I had refused to commit to approving vaccine recommendations without evidence, fire career officials without cause or resign. And I had shared my concerns with this committee.I told secretary I told the secretary that if he believed he could not trust me, he could fire me. The next day, I was told I still had my job, but the secretary's expectations remained. approval of ACIP recommendations and dismissal of career scientists. ...

It's easy to talk about this panel and and kind of get sucked down into the vaccine conversation, but you mentioned their recommendations weigh heavily on insurance coverage. What are some of the financial implications there. So, the big implications are that insurance companies will say, you know, we're not going to cover this because the CDC is not recommending this.And that's historically what they've done in the past. If it's not covered, then that severely decreases the access there because either fund ...