My daughter sees like with the news, I watch the news and stuff and I don't shelter her from it because she needs to know what's going on in society. She knows that I, you know, I shop right now with a calculator as it is just to make sure like I'm on key point and stuff, but she offered her piggy bank money. She's offered, you know, sometimes sell some of her toys to, you know, help with groceries.And it breaks my heart like like right now I'm getting so so thinking about it because I just look at her and ...

Joining us now is Nell Manify Libby, a senior public policy manager from the National Wick Association, an organization that provides low-income families with nutritional support. This is a tough time, Nell, and we've certainly gone through shutdowns before, but these programs are not usually impacted. What's happened. What's different this time.That's right, Alex. Thanks for having me. This shutdown has been particularly challenging for Wick for a couple of reasons.The first is that it's at the beginning o ...