Joining us now, senior editor at The Atlantic and host of Radio Atlantic, Hana Rosen, staff writer for The Atlantic and MSNBC political contributor Mark Lieovich, and presidential historian and professor of history at Rice University, Douglas Brinkley. Um, all right, speaking of backlash, let us also play a a little bit from Andrew Schultz's podcast. In terms of censorship, freedom of speech is is more under attack now, honestly, than I think it has ever been. >> I don't know if that's me being hyperbolic. ...