Joining me now is NBC News senior national security correspondent Courtney Kubie who is at the Pentagon. Uh so Courtney, we heard President Trump say that Zillinsky is not going to be a part of these talks. How significant of a blow is that for Ukraine and European nations.>> It's a huge deal, Ryan. I mean, the notion that President Zalinski would agree to any kind of a potential outcome out of the meetings in Alaska seems pretty far-fetched. Imagine that would mean President Trump and Vladimir Putin would ...