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National Health Investors(NHI) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-05-06 15:02
National Health Investors (NHI) Q1 2025 Earnings Call May 06, 2025 10:00 AM ET Company Participants Dana Hambly - VP - Finance & IREric Mendelsohn - President, CEO & Board MemberKevin Pascoe - CIOJohn Spaid - CFORichard Anderson - Managing Director - Equity ResearchJuan Sanabria - Managing DirectorFarrell Granath - Equity Research AssociateOmotayo Okusanya - Managing Director Conference Call Participants Austin Wurschmidt - Senior Equity Research Analyst Operator Greetings. Welcome to National Health Invest ...
National Health Investors(NHI) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-05-06 14:00
National Health Investors (NHI) Q1 2025 Earnings Call May 06, 2025 10:00 AM ET Speaker0 Greetings. Welcome to National Health Investors First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Webcast and Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Dana Hambly, Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations. You may begin. Speaker ...
National Health Investors(NHI) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Presentation
2025-05-05 21:50
National Health Investors Investor Update May 5, 2025 Montage Creek Senior Living Disclaimers This presentation, as well as information included in oral statements made, or to be made, by our senior management contain forward- looking statements that are based on current expectations, estimates, beliefs and assumptions. Words such as "may," "will," "anticipates," "expects," "intends," "plans," "believes," "seeks," "estimates" and variations of these words and similar expressions are intended to identify for ...
Omega Healthcare Investors(OHI) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-05-02 14:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Adjusted funds from operations (AFFO) for Q1 2025 were $0.75 per share, and funds available for distribution (FAD) were $0.71 per share, reflecting revenue and EBITDA growth, with leverage reduced to 3.7x debt to EBITDA [5][12] - Revenue for Q1 2025 was $277 million, up from $243 million in Q1 2024, primarily due to new investments and operator restructurings [9] - Net income for Q1 2025 was $112 million or $0.33 per share, compared to $69 million or $0.27 per share in Q1 2024 [10] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The percentage of private pay and other revenue increased from 8% ten years ago to 39% today, with expectations for continued growth in this area [8] - Maplewood paid $15.6 million in rent in Q1 2025, an increase of $3.3 million from Q4 2024, and occupancy for the Maplewood portfolio reached 94% as of April 2025 [20] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The UK market accounted for approximately 93% of total new investments in Q1 2025, with a strong pipeline of opportunities [23][25] - The trailing twelve-month operator EBITDAR coverage for the core portfolio increased to 1.51x as of December 31, 2024, indicating improved performance [18] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on disciplined and sustainable investment decisions while expanding its operator base in both the US and UK markets [18][24] - Omega is looking to opportunistically fund investments with equity, positioning itself for outsized adjusted FFO growth [13] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the ability of Genesis to continue paying rent despite recent liquidity issues, citing strong coverage metrics [6][33] - The company remains optimistic about the overall coverage and fundamentals improving in the healthcare sector, despite potential Medicaid cuts [28][29] Other Important Information - The company raised and narrowed its full-year adjusted FFO guidance to a range between $2.95 to $3.01 per share [14] - The company has a strong balance sheet with $368 million in cash and full borrowing capacity of its $1.45 billion credit facility [12] Q&A Session Summary Question: Details on Genesis and its rent payment issues - Management indicated that Genesis's recent rent payment issues were a one-time event related to their ABL lender tightening availability, and they expect continued payments moving forward [31][33] Question: Insights on the UK portfolio acquisition - The UK acquisition was facilitated by a strong platform and relationships with multiple operators, allowing for a quick and efficient transaction [39][41] Question: Impact of immigration on labor availability - No significant impact on labor availability or wage pressures has been observed at this time [45] Question: Genesis's operating fundamentals - Coverage metrics for Genesis have improved, with the portfolio consistently above 1.5 times [47] Question: Provider tax and Medicaid changes - The greatest risk to traditional Medicaid is provider taxes, which may see slight reductions, but the overall impact remains uncertain [76][78] Question: Disposition strategy and market opportunities - The company executed dispositions to redeploy capital effectively, taking advantage of attractive offers for non-core assets [82][84]
Omega Healthcare Investors(OHI) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-05-02 14:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Adjusted funds from operations (AFFO) for Q1 2025 were $0.75 per share, and funds available for distribution (FAD) were $0.71 per share, reflecting revenue and EBITDA growth [6][11] - Revenue for Q1 2025 was $277 million, up from $243 million in Q1 2024, primarily due to new investments and operator restructurings [10] - Net income for Q1 2025 was $112 million, or $0.33 per share, compared to $69 million, or $0.27 per share, in Q1 2024 [10][11] - NAREIT FFO for Q1 was $184 million, or $0.62 per share, compared to $153 million, or $0.60 per share, in Q1 2024 [11] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The percentage of private pay and other revenue increased from 8% ten years ago to 39% today, with expectations for continued growth [9] - Maplewood's occupancy for its core portfolio reached 94% as of April 2025, with rent payments improving significantly [20] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The trailing twelve-month operator EBITDAR coverage for the core portfolio increased to 1.51x as of December 31, 2024, compared to 1.50x for the previous period [18] - Omega's investment activity in Q1 2025 included over $423 million in new real estate investments and $34 million in CapEx investments [22] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company raised and narrowed its full-year adjusted FFO guidance to a range between $2.95 to $3.01 per share, assuming no change in revenue related to operators [14] - Omega is focusing on disciplined and sustainable investment decisions while serving a complex resident population across various asset types and markets [19] - The company continues to prioritize capital allocation towards accretive owned real estate deals that grow its balance sheet [26] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the ability of Genesis to continue paying rent, despite recent liquidity issues [7][35] - The company remains optimistic about the overall coverage and fundamentals improving, with no significant changes expected in the lending environment [29][63] - Management is closely monitoring potential Medicaid reforms and their implications for the business [29][81] Other Important Information - The company completed a $344 million investment for a portfolio of 45 care homes across the UK and Jersey, with an initial cash yield of 10% [24] - The federal judge ruled in favor of the industry regarding staffing mandates, which is expected to save the federal government $22 billion over ten years [28] Q&A Session Summary Question: Details on Genesis not paying rent and interest in March - Management indicated that Genesis has a weak balance sheet, and the shortfall was a one-time issue related to their ABL lender [34][36] Question: More details on the UK portfolio acquisition - The acquisition involved six operators and was completed quickly due to the company's strong platform in the UK [41][42] Question: Impact of immigration on labor availability and wage pressures - Management has not seen any significant impact from immigration on labor availability or wage pressures at this time [46] Question: Genesis operating fundamentals - Coverage metrics for Genesis have improved, with the portfolio consistently above 1.5 times [47] Question: Cap rates for yields on first quarter dispositions - Management indicated that the dispositions were both opportunistic and part of a cleanup of non-core assets [85]