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Latham Group (SWIM) FY Conference Transcript
2025-06-05 14:40
Summary of Latham's Conference Call Company Overview - Latham is a leading producer of inground residential pools, specializing in fiberglass pools, vinyl liners, and pool covers [2][4] - The company is the largest manufacturer of inground swimming pools in North America, Australia, and New Zealand [4] Industry Insights - Fiberglass pools are gaining market share over concrete pools due to lower costs and faster installation [2][12] - The U.S. market for inground pools is currently at 62,000 pools sold in 2024, with expectations of a flat market in 2025 [15][42] - Fiberglass pools represent 23% of all pools installed in the U.S., a number that has increased from 16% in 2019 [14][48] - The company holds a 50% market share in the fiberglass category and is the market leader in other categories with shares of 30-40% [6][7] Growth Strategies - Focus on expanding market share in the "sand states" (Florida, Texas, Arizona, California) where fiberglass pools are underrepresented [4][8] - Strategic priorities include increasing customer awareness, expanding the dealer base, and tailoring products to regional market needs [9][24][30] - The company aims to increase fiberglass pool adoption in the sand states, leveraging demographic similarities to Australia, where fiberglass pools hold a 70% market share [23][24] Financial Performance - The company has implemented restructuring projects to improve operating efficiencies and reduce costs [5][41] - Guidance for 2025 includes an 8% increase in net sales, driven by organic growth and contributions from recent acquisitions [42][43] - EBITDA is projected to increase by 19% compared to 2024, with a target of $95 million in EBITDA for 2025 [44] Market Dynamics - The company has seen a consistent annual conversion rate of 100 basis points towards fiberglass pools [48] - Tariffs are expected to create a $20 million headwind in 2025, but the company has mitigated some of this impact through supply chain strategies and price increases [50][51] - There are no significant cancellations or delays reported, as current installations are based on long-term decisions made by cash buyers [52] Key Takeaways - Latham is well-positioned for growth in the fiberglass pool market, particularly in underrepresented regions - The company is actively managing costs while pursuing strategic growth initiatives - Financial projections indicate a strong outlook for the coming years, despite market challenges and external pressures like tariffs [41][44]
Latham (SWIM) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-05-06 20:30
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Net sales for Q1 2025 were $111.4 million, slightly above $110.6 million in Q1 2024, reflecting positive momentum in fiberglass pools and auto covers [17] - Gross margin increased by 190 basis points to approximately 30% from 28% in the prior year, driven by lean manufacturing and value engineering initiatives [18][19] - SG&A expenses rose to $31 million, up from $26 million in Q1 2024, primarily due to strategic investments in sales and marketing [19] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Inbound pool sales were $58 million, down 4% from Q1 2024, impacted by soft industry conditions and adverse weather [18] - Cover sales increased by 18% to $32 million, benefiting from organic growth and acquisitions [18] - Liner sales decreased by 8% to $22 million compared to the previous year [18] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Fiberglass pools are expected to gain an additional 1% market share in the in-ground pool sector in 2025, driven by cost advantages and easier installation compared to concrete pools [6] - Labor scarcity is seen as a tailwind for fiberglass pools, with 46% of pool builders citing limited access to qualified labor as a significant issue [7] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on expanding its presence in Florida, Texas, Arizona, and California, which account for about two-thirds of annual new pool starts [13] - Key priorities include expanding the dealer base, targeting master plan communities, aligning product offerings with market demand, and targeted marketing campaigns [13] - The company aims to significantly increase its market share in the Sand States through strategic partnerships and new product launches [14] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed cautious optimism about the pool market, maintaining expectations for 2025 revenue growth of 8% at the midpoint [23] - The company anticipates continued progress in fiberglass awareness and adoption initiatives, supported by positive feedback from dealers and increased consumer engagement [22] - Management noted that the current business trends are encouraging, with a solid start to 2025 and expectations for higher year-on-year comparisons in the stronger second and third quarters [24] Other Important Information - The company announced the resignation of its Chief Commercial Officer, with confidence in the strength of its commercial team to continue executing the sales and marketing strategy [16] - Capital expenditures are expected to range between $27 million and $33 million in 2025, reflecting investments in new production modes and facility expansions [21] Q&A Session Summary Question: Outlook for margin expansion and SG&A leverage - Management indicated that SG&A leverage is expected to increase as year-over-year growth sets in, with sales projected to increase by about 8% [27] Question: Reaction to new molds and marketing efforts in Sand States - Management reported positive trends in sales and strong progress with builders in Florida, indicating an acceleration in market share gains [28][30] Question: Risks and opportunities in the fiberglass pool market - Management noted that while the decision to purchase a pool is a long-term process, they have not seen any slowdown in consumer interest or buying decisions [36][39] Question: Impact of tariffs on costs and pricing strategy - Management quantified the tariff headwind at approximately 350 to 400 basis points, with pricing increases aimed at mitigating the remaining impact [41][42] Question: Demand environment and consumer appetite for automatic safety covers - Management confirmed strong demand for auto covers, with high attachment rates on new pools and significant interest in safety features [75][72]
Latham (SWIM) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-03-05 03:30
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Net sales for Q4 2024 were $87 million, down 4% from $91 million in Q4 2023, reflecting lower volumes due to industry softness [22] - Full year net sales were $509 million, down 10% from $566 million in the prior year, primarily due to lower sales volume [26] - Adjusted EBITDA for Q4 was $4 million, down 63% from $10 million in the prior period, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 4%, a decline of 670 basis points year over year [25] - Full year adjusted EBITDA was $80 million, compared to $88 million in the prior year, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 15.8%, up 30 basis points from 15.5% in 2023 [29] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - In-ground pool sales for Q4 were $44 million, down 5% from Q4 2023, while cover sales were $31 million, down 2% [22] - Full year in-ground pool sales were $259 million, down 13% year over year, but above the estimated 15% decline in in-ground pool starts in the US [26] - Liner sales for the full year were $180 million, down 8%, and cover sales were $131 million, down 7% [27] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Fiberglass pools represented 24% of US pool starts in 2024, up from 23% in 2023, indicating increased market penetration [7] - Approximately 17% of Latham Group's total fiberglass pool sales in 2024 were in the sand states, which account for about two-thirds of US pool starts [12] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on expanding market share in the sand states (Florida, Texas, Arizona, California) and increasing fiberglass pool penetration [11] - Key priorities include expanding the dealer base, targeting master-planned communities, aligning product offerings with market demand, and addressing marketing campaigns specifically to consumers and builders in those markets [13] - The company plans to launch new fiberglass pool models tailored to the preferences of consumers in the sand states [13] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed cautious optimism about the operating environment, noting that while industry conditions are challenging, they expect to outperform the market in 2025 [20] - The company anticipates that new US pool starts in 2025 will be similar to 2024 levels, but they are prepared to ramp up quickly if market demand increases [19] - Management highlighted the importance of strategic investments in growth initiatives, particularly in fiberglass pools and automatic safety covers [11] Other Important Information - The company ended 2024 with a strong financial position, including a cash position of $56 million and total debt of $282 million [30] - Capital expenditures for 2024 were $20 million, with projections for 2025 to be in the range of $27 million to $33 million [36] Q&A Session Summary Question: Breakdown of the 8% sales growth guidance - Management indicated that the 8% sales growth is expected to come from approximately 3% from the full-year run rate effect of acquisitions and about 5% from organic growth [43][44] Question: Feedback from dealers in the sand states - Management reported positive feedback from dealers, with many indicating that their backlogs are flat or up compared to the previous year, and noted a 40% increase in leads from the Goosa campaign in Texas [48][50] Question: Exposure to tariffs and impact on business - Management stated that the tariff impact is limited, with around $15 million in material buys from affected countries, and emphasized their diversified supplier base to mitigate risks [59][60] Question: Effectiveness of the sand state strategy - Management acknowledged that fiberglass penetration in the sand states is significantly below the national average, presenting a substantial growth opportunity [75] Question: EBITDA margin guidance and tariff implications - Management confirmed that the guidance includes considerations for tariffs, with a focus on maintaining gross margin performance through operational efficiencies [121][130]