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Watsco(WSO) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-07-30 15:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Sales declined by 4% despite double-digit pricing gains for new equipment, offset by lower volumes [6][7] - Gross profit margins reached record levels, leading to an increase in EBIT and expanded EBIT margins [7][8] - SG&A expenses increased by 6% due to transition costs and the addition of 10 new locations from recent acquisitions [8][9] - The company maintains a strong cash position with no debt [9] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Residential new construction and international markets remain subdued, with residential new construction down by 15% to 20% [19] - E-commerce sales grew to $2.5 billion, representing 34% of total sales, with mobile app users increasing by 17% year-over-year [9][10] - The annual volume of products sold through OnCallAir increased by 19% to $1.6 billion [10] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - International sales, particularly in Mexico, were volatile and negatively impacted earnings by approximately $0.10 per share in the quarter [22] - The company expects improvements in July and August, indicating a better market outlook [23] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on transitioning to next-generation equipment with A2L refrigerants, affecting about 55% of historical product sales [5][6] - A new technology-driven sales platform is being developed to capture larger national customers, expected to launch in 2026 [10][11] - The company aims to grow the parts and supply segment, which currently represents about 30% of sales [11] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledges a soft market but remains optimistic about future growth and market share development [25][26] - The company is focused on improving gross margins and inventory turns, with a goal of reaching 30% gross profit margin [11][84] - Management emphasizes the importance of innovation and technology in maintaining competitive advantage [12][93] Other Important Information - The company is actively pursuing M&A opportunities, leveraging its strong balance sheet [55][56] - Management is committed to improving inventory management and reducing excess inventory levels [50][53] Q&A Session Summary Question: What happened to volumes in the quarter? - Management noted that volumes were weaker than expected due to weather patterns and a decline in residential new construction, but saw improvements in July [19][20] Question: How sustainable are the gross margins? - Management indicated that while the current gross margin of 29% is strong, it may not be sustainable in the second half of the year due to the absence of pricing benefits seen in the first half [27][28] Question: What is the impact of the canister shortage? - Management stated that the canister shortage was less of a concern now and that they expect to be off allocation by August [40][41] Question: How is the inventory investment trending? - The company reported a significant inventory investment due to the transition, but is focused on improving inventory turns moving forward [50][52] Question: What are the thoughts on consumer preferences during the product transition? - Management observed that the market remains focused on minimum efficiency products, with no significant shift towards high-efficiency systems [61][62] Question: Are there any incentives being requested by contractors? - Management indicated that contractors are not pushing for lower prices, as there is no elasticity in the market [146]
Watsco(WSO) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-07-30 15:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Sales declined by 4%, with double-digit pricing gains for new equipment offset by lower volumes [5][6] - Record gross profit margins were achieved, leading to an increase in EBIT and expanded EBIT margins despite lower sales [6][7] - SG&A expenses increased by 6% due to additional costs during the product transition and the addition of 10 new locations from recent acquisitions [7][8] - The company maintains a strong cash position with no debt [8] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Residential new construction and international markets remain subdued, with residential new construction down by 15% to 20% [18] - The annual volume of products sold through OnCallAir, the digital selling platform, increased by 19% to $1.6 billion [9] - Parts and supply segment, currently about 30% of sales, is expected to grow significantly over time [10] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - International sales, particularly in Mexico, were volatile and negatively impacted earnings by approximately $0.10 per share for the quarter [21] - The company experienced a late start to the summer season, affecting overall market performance [5] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is transitioning to next-generation equipment using A2L refrigerants, affecting about 55% of historical product sales [4] - A new technology-driven sales platform is being developed to capture larger national customers, expected to launch in 2026 [10] - The company aims for a gross profit margin of 30% and is focusing on growing the parts and supply segment [10] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about the future, noting that the transition to new products will simplify operations by 2026 [4] - The company is focused on controlling margins and pricing, despite external market challenges [23] - Management acknowledged the current market noise due to various macroeconomic factors but remains confident in the company's ability to grow and take market share [125] Other Important Information - E-commerce sales have grown to $2.5 billion, representing 34% of total sales [8] - The company has launched two AI platforms to enhance data utilization and improve customer experience [11] Q&A Session Summary Question: What happened to volumes in the quarter? - Management noted that April was strong, May was weak due to weather, and June rebounded. Residential new construction was down 15% to 20%, but replacement sales remained strong [18] Question: How sustainable are the gross margins? - Management indicated that while the current gross margin of 29% is strong, it may not be sustainable in the second half due to the absence of pricing benefits seen in the first half [26][28] Question: What is the impact of the cylinder shortage? - Management stated that the refrigerant allocation issue is becoming less of a concern, with expectations to be off allocation by August [40] Question: How is inventory being managed during the transition? - The company has invested more in inventory than anticipated due to lower industry demand, but is focused on improving inventory turnover [48][52] Question: What is the outlook for M&A activity? - Management expressed eagerness for potential M&A opportunities in the current soft market, highlighting a strong balance sheet to support acquisitions [53][55] Question: How are consumer preferences changing during the product transition? - Management noted that the market remains focused on minimum efficiency products, with no significant shift towards high-efficiency systems [60] Question: What are the expectations for pricing in the second half? - Management does not anticipate significant price increases on equipment but expects some inflationary pressures on non-equipment products due to tariffs [118]
Watsco(WSO) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Presentation
2025-06-25 09:27
Watsco, Inc. 4Q24 Investor Presentation Safe Harbor Statement This Presentation contains or incorporates by reference statements that are not historical in nature and that are intended to be, and are hereby identified as, "forward-looking statements" as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Statements which are not historical in nature, including the words "anticipate," "estimate," "could," "should," "may," "plan," "seek," "expect," "believe," "intend," "target," "will," "project, ...
Watsco(WSO) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Presentation
2025-06-25 09:26
Business Overview - Watsco is a market leader in a highly fragmented industry, focusing on transforming customer experience with technology and value creation[4] - The company operates 693 strategic locations across the United States, Canada, and Latin America & Caribbean[12] - Watsco's business model involves contractors purchasing equipment, parts, and supplies to repair or replace homeowner's systems[10] Market and Products - The company estimates its market share to be 18-20%[46] - Watsco's revenue is primarily generated in the United States (90%), with Canada and Latin America contributing 5% each[19] - Residential HVAC equipment accounts for 55% of revenue, followed by other HVAC products (26%), commercial HVAC equipment (15%), and refrigeration (4%)[19] - The installed base of HVAC units in the U S continues to grow, with approximately 96 million units shipped in 2024, and only ~12% of industry shipments tied to Residential New Construction[24] Technology and ESG - Watsco is focused on using technology to transform the HVAC industry, with $2.6B in annualized e-commerce revenue in 2024, an 8% increase[25, 35] - The company has over 930k product SKUs digitized and accessible in its mobile app[32, 36] - Watsco's ESG efforts have resulted in averting 23.7 million metric tons of CO2e from the sale of high-efficiency equipment from January 2020 – March 2025[38] Financial Performance - From 1989 to LTM 3/31/25, Watsco's revenues grew from $64 million to $7.6 billion, representing a 14% CAGR[46] - EBIT increased from $2 million to $767 million during the same period, a 17% CAGR[46] - The company's market capitalization has grown from $22 million to $20 billion, a 21% CAGR[46]
Watsco's Q1 Earnings & Revenues Miss Estimates, Stock Sinks 11%
ZACKS· 2025-04-24 12:00
Watsco, Inc. (WSO) reported first-quarter 2025 results wherein earnings and revenues missed the Zacks Consensus Estimate and declined year over year. Following the results, WSO stock declined 11.3% during trading hours yesterday. Investors' sentiments are likely to have been hurt by a mix of challenges across end markets and seasonal factors. Additionally, uncertainty surrounding the ongoing impacts of tariffs and inflationary pressures weighed on investor outlook. Although Watsco has implemented pricing ac ...