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MFA Financial(MFA) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-08-06 16:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The economic book value decreased by 1% to $13.69 per share, while GAAP book value also fell by 1% to $13.12 per share [14] - Distributable earnings (DE) for the quarter were $0.24 per share, down from $0.29 per share in the previous quarter, primarily due to credit losses [17] - GAAP earnings were $33.2 million or $0.22 per basic common share, driven by an increase in net interest income to $61.3 million [14][15] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company sourced $876 million in loans and securities, including $500 million in non-QM loans and $217 million in business purpose loans [12][20] - The delinquency rate for loans over 60 days decreased from 7.5% to 7.3% [15][24] - Lima One originated $217 million in business purpose loans, with an increase in mortgage banking income from $5.4 million to $6.1 million [23] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The market for securitized mortgage credit assets continues to deepen, with increased liquidity and strong investor appetite [6][9] - Mortgage credit spreads widened in April but retraced to levels seen at the end of Q1 by the end of the second quarter [6][22] - The company completed its eighteenth non-QM securitization in May, selling $291 million of bonds at an average coupon of 5.76% [21] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to continue focusing on non-QM loans, business purpose loans, and agency securities, with plans to grow the business purpose loan originations [20][23] - The management is optimistic about the economic return potential of the portfolio, indicating that the economic earnings power is closer to a 10% dividend yield [29] - The company is actively resolving non-performing loans and expects to utilize additional loan sales to accelerate the resolution of underperforming assets [16] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - The management noted that the economic and macro environments appear clearer as the year progresses, with resilient growth despite slower than expected rates [8][9] - There is a consensus for two rate cuts later this year, which is favorable for mortgage REITs [9] - The management expressed confidence in the current earnings power of the portfolio and the sustainability of the common dividend [18] Other Important Information - The company expects to lower its G&A expenses by 7% to 10% per year from 2024 levels due to ongoing expense reduction initiatives [18] - Subsequent to the quarter end, the economic book value is estimated to have increased by approximately 1% to 2% [19] Q&A Session Summary Question: Economic return for the portfolio - Management discussed the economic return of the portfolio and indicated that the economic earnings power is much closer to a 10% dividend yield, with potential upside as capital is redeployed from troubled loans [28][29] Question: New loan officers at Lima One - The new hires are focused on the West and Midwest, with expectations for aggressive growth in the latter half of the year as they ramp up [40][41] Question: Capital allocation trends - Management indicated that they would continue to deploy capital across non-QM, HC, and business purpose loans, with a preference for increasing business purpose loan originations [33][49] Question: Distribution potential for new transitional loans - Management noted that they have been selling rental loans and expect to grow originations, with a balance between securitization financing and loan sales [56] Question: Execution risk for developers - Management stated that they are not seeing material pressure on rental income and exit prices, tracking these metrics month to month [65][66] Question: Relative risk of loan vintages - Management indicated that the 2023 vintage for multifamily loans was tougher, but overall LTVs are low, minimizing concerns about losses [67] Question: Callability of non-QM portfolio - Management explained that lower interest rates could lead to more callable deals, but the impact would be marginal due to offsetting swaps [70][72]