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Southland (SLND) - 2024 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
SLNDSouthland (SLND)2024-08-13 16:55

Financial Data and Key Metrics - Revenue for Q2 2024 was 252million,downfrom252 million, down from 257 million in Q2 2023 [4] - Gross loss for Q2 2024 was 40million,comparedto40 million, compared to 34 million in Q2 2023 [4] - Operating cash flow was strong at 27millioninQ22024[4]NetlossforQ22024was27 million in Q2 2024 [4] - Net loss for Q2 2024 was 46 million, or 0.96pershare,comparedtoanetlossof0.96 per share, compared to a net loss of 13 million, or 0.27pershare,inQ22023[16]AdjustedEBITDAforQ22024wasnegative0.27 per share, in Q2 2023 [16] - Adjusted EBITDA for Q2 2024 was negative 49.9 million, compared to negative 42.2millioninQ22023[17]BusinessLinePerformanceCivilsegmentrevenueincreasedto42.2 million in Q2 2023 [17] Business Line Performance - Civil segment revenue increased to 79 million in Q2 2024, up from 65millioninQ22023,withgrossprofitmarginimprovingto1265 million in Q2 2023, with gross profit margin improving to 12% from 9% [18] - Transportation segment revenue decreased to 172 million in Q2 2024, down from 191millioninQ22023,withgrossprofitmarginworseningtonegative29191 million in Q2 2023, with gross profit margin worsening to negative 29% from negative 21% [18] - Materials & Paving segment contributed 9 million in revenue but had a gross loss of 47millionduetounfavorableadjustmentsfromdisputesettlements[19]MarketandBacklogDataBacklogattheendofQ22024was47 million due to unfavorable adjustments from dispute settlements [19] Market and Backlog Data - Backlog at the end of Q2 2024 was 2.74 billion, up from 2.64billioninQ12024[8]NewawardsinQ22024totaled2.64 billion in Q1 2024 [8] - New awards in Q2 2024 totaled 375 million, including the 202millionBullRunFiltrationFacilityand202 million Bull Run Filtration Facility and 150 million in water resource projects [8] - The company was selected for phase 2 of the North End Treatment Plant in Winnipeg, with an expected construction contract value of 220million[9]StrategicDirectionandIndustryCompetitionThecompanyisfocusingonresolvinglegacydisputestostrengthenthebalancesheetandgeneratecash[5][6]Alternativedeliverycontracts,suchasprogressivedesignbuilds,arebecomingmoreprevalent,andthecompanyiswellpositionedtocapitalizeontheseopportunitiesduetoitstechnicalexpertiseandcompetitiveadvantage[10][11]TheEPAsupdatedCleanWaterInfrastructureNeedssurveyestimates220 million [9] Strategic Direction and Industry Competition - The company is focusing on resolving legacy disputes to strengthen the balance sheet and generate cash [5][6] - Alternative delivery contracts, such as progressive design builds, are becoming more prevalent, and the company is well-positioned to capitalize on these opportunities due to its technical expertise and competitive advantage [10][11] - The EPA's updated Clean Water Infrastructure Needs survey estimates 630 billion will be needed over the next 20 years to address water quality objectives, presenting significant opportunities for the company [11][12] Management Commentary on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the core business and the ability to capitalize on opportunities from the IIJA (Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act) [13][14] - The company expects to generate significant cash from resolving legacy disputes and strong performance in core business projects in the coming quarters [6][14] Other Important Information - The company closed a 42.5millionrealestatetransactioninJuly2024,resultingin42.5 million real estate transaction in July 2024, resulting in 16 million of debt reduction and 25millionincashforgeneralcorporatepurposes[7]AdebtrefinancingtransactionisexpectedtobefinalizedbeforeQ32024resultsareannounced,whichwillrefinanceapproximately25 million in cash for general corporate purposes [7] - A debt refinancing transaction is expected to be finalized before Q3 2024 results are announced, which will refinance approximately 110 million of existing debt [21] Q&A Session Summary Question: When will the Civil segment backlog start flowing into revenue? - Revenue from the Civil segment is expected to increase in Q3 and Q4 2024, with backlog up 38% year-over-year [23][24] Question: How will the remaining Materials & Paving backlog be recognized? - The remaining 200 million in Materials & Paving backlog will be heavily weighted towards Q3 and Q4 2024, with some projects trailing into 2025 [25] Question: What is the potential for more dispute settlements in the coming quarters? - The company expects to generate significant cash from ongoing dispute settlements, with approximately half of the CIE balance related to substantially completed projects [27] Question: How many projects are involved in the disputed contracts? - The company has a handful of claims related to its legacy portfolio, with the CityLYNX project being one of the larger claims [29][30] Question: What is the outlook for organic growth excluding legacy disputes? - The company expects strong organic growth driven by the IIJA and healthy market conditions, with the Civil segment backlog up 38% [33][34] Question: What are the chances of contract disputes being settled in 2025 instead of 2024? - Most claims are from projects bid in 2018 and 2019, and the company is working to resolve them as quickly as possible [37] Question: Why was the revenue from Materials & Paving only 9 million in Q2 2024? - The settlement resulted in a derecognition of revenue from prior periods, but operational progress remains on track for substantial completion by mid-2025 [38] Question: How will the 110millionrefinancingaffectGAAPinterestexpense?Therefinancingisexpectedtosupportworkingcapitalbetter,butdetailswillbeprovidedoncethetransactionisfinalized[40]Question:DidweatherimpactQ2orearlyQ3performance?Higherthannormalraineventsimpactedsomework,butnosignificantweatherrelatedissueswerenotedforJuly[41]Question:Whatistheproformabalancesheetpositionafterrecenttransactions?Therealestatetransactionanddisputesettlementshavestrengthenedthebalancesheet,with110 million refinancing affect GAAP interest expense? - The refinancing is expected to support working capital better, but details will be provided once the transaction is finalized [40] Question: Did weather impact Q2 or early Q3 performance? - Higher-than-normal rain events impacted some work, but no significant weather-related issues were noted for July [41] Question: What is the pro forma balance sheet position after recent transactions? - The real estate transaction and dispute settlements have strengthened the balance sheet, with 25 million in net proceeds and $16 million in debt reduction [43] Question: What are the remaining risks in executing the Materials & Paving backlog? - Risks include change orders, weather, and inflation, but the company expects to collect on recorded claims and sees potential cash upside [45][47]