Ingevity(NGVT) - 2023 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported a nearly 15% increase in sales driven by stronger pricing across all segments and higher volumes in Performance Materials and Pavement Technologies [29] - Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $120.7 million, flat compared to the previous year, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 25.1% [31] - Diluted adjusted EPS was $1.41, lower than the prior year due to higher interest expenses and depreciation related to the Ozark acquisition [31] - Free cash flow for the quarter was $27 million, lower than usual due to significant working capital increases, particularly in inventory [32] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Performance Materials experienced double-digit growth year-over-year and sequentially [8] - The Pavement Technologies business had a record quarter, with strong demand leading to higher sales in Europe and South America [13] - The Industrial Specialties segment faced challenges, with volume declines attributed to macroeconomic trends and customer destocking [53][61] - Advanced Polymer Technologies saw flat sales year-over-year but improved profitability, with an EBITDA margin of 21.8% [55] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - North America was the strongest region for the company, while Asia and Europe showed sluggish recovery [58][121] - The U.K. is rapidly adopting warm mix technology, which is expected to reduce energy use and emissions [21] - Demand for rosin-based products weakened, particularly in Asia and Europe, impacting overall volumes [41][61] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on transitioning to alternative fatty acids (AFA) to mitigate reliance on crude tall oil (CTO) and reduce cost exposure [49][112] - The strategy includes expanding production capabilities and entering new markets, particularly in bioplastics and automotive applications [42][112] - The company is also investing in talent to support the AFA transition and enhance its market position [26][112] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed concerns over the sluggish recovery in China and ongoing industrial slowdowns in Europe, which have affected demand [61][121] - The company anticipates that CTO prices will remain elevated until 2024, impacting profitability [61] - Management remains optimistic about the long-term potential of the AFA transition and expects to see improvements as market conditions stabilize [112][156] Other Important Information - The company initiated significant cost reduction actions, expecting annualized savings of approximately $35 million, with $20 million expected to be realized in 2023 [36] - The transition costs associated with the WestRock closure are expected to be between $15 million and $20 million, primarily in the second half of the year [35] Q&A Session Summary Question: What is the disconnect in CTO pricing? - Management acknowledged the inefficiency in the CTO market and indicated that pricing tends to lag market changes, complicating recovery efforts [51][66] Question: How much of the guidance reduction is due to WestRock transition costs? - The WestRock impact is primarily cash costs, while the EBITDA decline is more related to CTO costs and general economic slowdown [80][81] Question: What is the expected contribution from PM and APT businesses? - The contribution from PM and APT is expected to be lower than initially thought due to the lack of recovery in China and Europe [102] Question: How is the AFA transition progressing? - The AFA transition is on track, with expectations to produce volumes equivalent to traditional CTO volumes by next year [112][130] Question: How will the company recover the $100 million gap from CTO costs next year? - Recovery will depend on improved market conditions, pricing adjustments, and continued growth in other business segments [141][156]