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PACIFIC BASIN(PCFBY) - 2024 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
PACIFIC BASINPACIFIC BASIN(US:PCFBY)2024-10-17 16:56

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q3 2024, Handysize and Supramax freight rates averaged $11,700 and $13,820 net per day, representing increases of 53% and 45% respectively compared to Q3 2023 [2] - Core business generated average Handysize and Supramax daily time charter equivalent earnings of $13,740 and $12,220 net per day, reflecting year-on-year increases of 35% and 6% respectively [5] - The company has covered 74% and 84% of its core committed vessel days for Q4 2024 at $12,570 and $12,190 per day for Handysize and Supramax respectively [6] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Global minor bulk loadings increased by approximately 2% in Q3 2024 compared to the same period last year, with bauxite, agribulk, and fertilizer loadings rising by 19%, 11%, and 2% respectively [4] - Global coal loadings remained flat year-on-year, with a 9% increase in Indonesian loadings [4] - Global grain loadings were 6% higher than in Q3 2023, with Argentina and the U.S. increasing their loadings by 51% and 33% respectively [5] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Baltic Exchange Forward Freight Agreements indicate Handysize rates for Q4 2024 at $11,390 net per day and Supramax rates at $13,040 net per day [3] - Chinese steel production declined by 3% in the first eight months of 2024, while exports increased by 21% in the first nine months [4] - Ukraine grain loadings surged by 367% compared to Q3 2023, although still 24% lower than in 2021 [5] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on optimizing short-term earnings while increasing overall coverage for 2025 [6] - A $40 million share buyback program has been initiated, with approximately 105.8 million shares repurchased for about $31.7 million [9] - The company plans to continue monitoring developments in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden, which are impacting fleet efficiency and increasing tonne-mile demand [12] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed modest optimism for 2025, citing potential benefits from lower interest rates and ongoing fiscal support from China [22] - The company noted that the lack of seasonality in the market this year may continue into next year due to geopolitical factors [24] - Management highlighted that the ongoing conflict in the Middle East and limited Suez Canal transit are positively impacting the dry cargo segment [36] Other Important Information - The company has sold 24 older vessels since 2021 and is expanding its fleet with larger, more efficient vessels [13] - The company is assessing its readiness to commit to ordering low-emission vessels, aligning with sustainability goals [14] Q&A Session Summary Question: Optimism around China stimulus and early lead indicators - Management noted that while there are challenges in the property market, commodity demand remains high, and fiscal support from the government could positively impact the dry cargo segment [18][20] Question: Outlook for 2025 compared to 2024 - Management sees a mix of pros and cons for 2025, with uncertainties such as U.S. elections and trade tariffs, but remains modestly positive [22] Question: Capital return and CapEx policy for 2025 - Management confirmed that at least 50% of excess cash will be returned through dividends or share buybacks, depending on investment opportunities [25][26] Question: Details on low emissions vessels and financial benefits - Management is still in the design phase for low-emission vessels and will only proceed if it creates value for the company [27] Question: Impact of ongoing conflict in the Middle East and Suez Canal transit - Management indicated that limited Suez Canal transit is positively affecting the market, while normalization of the Panama Canal has led to increased U.S. grain exports [35][36]