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A. O. Smith(AOS) - 2024 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics - Q3 sales and earnings decreased compared to last year due to weaker consumer demand in China and North America water heater demand [5] - China third-party sales declined 17% in local currency [5] - North America water heater sales decreased 4% [5] - North America boiler sales grew 15% and water treatment sales increased 16% [7] - North America segment sales were 703million,a1703 million, a 1% decline compared to 2023 [10] - North America segment earnings decreased 4% to 163 million, with a segment margin of 23.1% [10] - Rest of the world segment sales decreased 10% to 210million[11]Restoftheworldsegmentearningswere210 million [11] - Rest of the world segment earnings were 14 million with a segment margin of 6.5% [12] - Free cash flow for the first nine months of 2024 was 283million,adecreasefromthesameperiodlastyear[12]Cashbalancetotaled283 million, a decrease from the same period last year [12] - Cash balance totaled 256 million at the end of September, with a net cash position of 136billion[12]BusinessLineDataandKeyMetricsNorthAmericawaterheaterbusinesssawsofterordersinbothresidentialandcommercialsegments[6]NorthAmericaboilersalesgrew15136 billion [12] Business Line Data and Key Metrics - North America water heater business saw softer orders in both residential and commercial segments [6] - North America boiler sales grew 15% due to strong performance in commercial condensing boilers [7] - North America water treatment sales increased 16% due to acquisition-related dealer sales and organic growth [7] - India sales increased 12% in local currency [11] - The company launched a tankless water heater product in Q2, with two additional models planned for early 2025 [7] Market Data and Key Metrics - China market experienced weaker consumer demand, with increased pricing and promotional pressure in the mid-price sector [6] - North America residential water heater orders were weaker than expected, with reduced inventories [16] - U.S. residential industry unit volumes are projected to be flat in 2024 [17] - U.S. commercial water heater industry volumes are expected to be flat, with a shift from gas to electric units [17] Company Strategy and Industry Competition - The company is focused on long-term growth through capacity expansion projects, including a new facility in Juárez for gas tankless water heaters [8] - The company is on track to acquire Pureit from Unilever for 120 million, enhancing its water treatment portfolio in South Asia [13] - The company increased its dividend by 6%, marking 32 consecutive years of dividend increases [5] - The company is investing in innovation and new product development across all product lines and geographies [13] Management Commentary on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expects consumer demand softness in China to persist through the remainder of 2024, with potential positive impact from government stimulus programs in 2025 [6] - The company reaffirmed its 2024 EPS outlook to a range of 3.70to3.70 to 3.85 per share [14] - Management expects North America segment margin to be approximately 24.5% and rest of the world segment margin to be 8% [18] - The company is cautious about end-market demand but expects quarter-over-quarter improvement in North America water heater volumes [19] Other Important Information - The company repurchased approximately 2.9 million shares of common stock in the first nine months of 2024 for a total of 237million[13]Capitalexpendituresareexpectedtobebetween237 million [13] - Capital expenditures are expected to be between 105 million and 115millionin2024[14]Thecompanyexpectstogenerateoperatingcashflowof115 million in 2024 [14] - The company expects to generate operating cash flow of 525 million and free cash flow of approximately $415 million in 2024 [14] Q&A Session Summary Question: North America Residential Water Heater Segment Performance - The company attributed the weaker performance to inventory imbalances and timing issues related to a price increase in Q2 [22][23] - Management expects the market to stabilize, with flat to slightly down industry volumes for the rest of 2024 [24] Question: Stickiness of March Price Increase in North America - The price increase was executed as planned, and the company remains competitive in the market [28] Question: Long-term Strategy for China Business - The company remains committed to the China market, citing long-term upside from urbanization and middle-class growth [30] Question: Impact of Tankless Water Heater Factory Switch - The transition of tankless water heater production from China to Juárez will create a headwind in 2025, but the company remains positive about the long-term outlook [39] Question: Sellout Dynamics in North America Water Heater Market - Sellout dynamics vary by market, with some distributors reporting low single-digit growth or decline [46] - Proactive replacement demand remains stable [48] Question: Steel Costs and Price-Cost Trends - Steel costs are favorable in Q4, but overall material costs are expected to be flat [50] Question: North America Commercial Water Heater Outlook - The company expects the commercial water heater market to remain flat, with a shift from gas to electric units [82] Question: Free Cash Flow Reduction - The reduction in free cash flow is primarily due to higher inventory balances and lower customer deposits in China [87]