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NACCO Industries(NC) - 2024 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported an operating profit of 19.7millionandnetincomeof19.7 million and net income of 15.6 million, equating to 2.14pershare,comparedtoanoperatinglossof2.14 per share, compared to an operating loss of 6.3 million and a net loss of 3.8millionoralossof3.8 million or a loss of 0.51 per share in the previous year [18] - EBITDA increased to 25.7millionfrom25.7 million from 400,000 in 2023, including 13.6millionofinsurancerecoveryincome[18]BusinessLineDataandKeyMetricsChangesCoalMiningsegmentreportedanoperatingprofitof13.6 million of insurance recovery income [18] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Coal Mining segment reported an operating profit of 19.9 million and segment adjusted EBITDA of 22.1million,comparedtoanoperatinglossof22.1 million, compared to an operating loss of 4.7 million in 2023 [19] - Minerals Management's revenues increased 54% to 8.8million,withoperatingprofitimprovingto8.8 million, with operating profit improving to 6.2 million, up 71% from 3.6millioninthepreviousyear[20]NorthAmericanMiningreportedanoperatinglossofapproximately3.6 million in the previous year [20] - North American Mining reported an operating loss of approximately 0.5 million, down from a profit of 900,000in2023,withsegmentadjustedEBITDAat900,000 in 2023, with segment adjusted EBITDA at 2.2 million [20] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - North American Mining's revenue increased 24% year-over-year due to favorable pricing and delivery mix at limestone quarries, despite lower customer demand [13] - The company anticipates solid customer demand at coal mining operations in 2025, benefiting from the absence of temporary price concessions [25] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is optimistic about its trajectory and the performance of its business segments, including efforts to protect its coal mining business [18] - The company is expanding its operations outside Florida, with ongoing projects in Texas, Nebraska, Arkansas, and Virginia, leveraging relationships with top aggregate producers [44] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the business's future, citing favorable macroeconomic trends and expected increases in profitability across segments [25][24] - The company is taking actions to terminate its defined benefit pension plan to eliminate future volatility from pension obligations [27] Other Important Information - The company ended the quarter with approximately 63millionincashand63 million in cash and 70 million in debt, and amended its revolving credit facility to increase commitments to $200 million [28] Q&A Session Summary Question: What happens when a customer is facing financial difficulties? - The response indicated that actions depend on the specific situation, including potentially pulling employees away and securing equipment [30] Question: Are you able to say how many tons that contract is? - The company noted that as it diversifies into different minerals, tonnage becomes a less meaningful statistic [31] Question: Would you expect tonnage to bounce back after the decline due to rain and customer maintenance? - Management indicated that typically, tonnage would bounce back, but hurricanes have impacted operations in Florida [33] Question: How do you categorize the businesses as consolidated and unconsolidated? - The categorization relies on control and is evaluated on a contract-by-contract basis [42] Question: Are there M&A opportunities to accelerate diversification? - The company is expanding rapidly outside Florida and has relationships with several top aggregate producers, indicating potential for growth [44]