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Hudson Pacific Properties(HPP) - 2024 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The third quarter 2024 revenue was $200.4 million, down from $231.4 million in the same quarter last year, primarily due to the sale of One Westside and the expiration of the Block lease at 1455 Market [36] - Third quarter FFO, excluding specified items, was $14.3 million or $0.10 per diluted share, compared to $26.1 million or $0.18 per diluted share a year ago [37] - Third quarter AFFO was $15.8 million or $0.11 per diluted share, down from $28.1 million or $0.20 per diluted share in the same quarter last year [39] - Same-store cash NOI was $96.9 million, compared to $113.2 million in the third quarter last year, mainly due to tenant move-outs [39] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The leasing team signed 539,000 square feet of office leases in the third quarter, with 56% being new deals, bringing the year-to-date total to 1.6 million square feet, which is 25% ahead of the same time last year [20] - Occupancy increased sequentially by 40 basis points to 79.1%, with a consistent lease percentage at 80% [20] - Studio revenue in the third quarter was $5.6 million higher compared to the previous year, despite a sequential decline of $8.5 million due to lower average production levels [32] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Tenant requirements in West Coast tech-centric office markets increased by 17% year-over-year, compared to just 7% for the broader U.S. office market [11] - Downtown San Francisco experienced positive net absorption for Class A product for the first time in two years, with year-to-date overall gross leasing being the highest since 2019 [12] - Seattle saw overall requirements up about 30% year-over-year, indicating a recovery in midsized demand [12] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on capital recycling, with plans to sell non-core office assets to maximize value, expecting gross proceeds of $200 million to $225 million from ongoing negotiations [18] - The company is optimistic about the potential impact of proposed tax credit legislation in California, which could enhance production demand in the studio segment [14] - The company aims to stabilize and grow occupancy and cash flow across its portfolio in 2025, leveraging improved leasing activity and market conditions [45] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence that the tide is turning in the office market, with positive indicators emerging and expectations for stabilization and growth in 2025 [6] - The management noted that tech layoffs have declined significantly, and venture funding is picking up, which could serve as a catalyst for leasing activity [9] - The company anticipates lower office occupancy in the fourth quarter due to a full building tenant vacating, but believes occupancy would have shown another sequential increase without this event [43] Other Important Information - The company has no debt maturing until November 2025, with a liquidity position of $696 million at the end of the third quarter [41] - The company is actively pursuing multiple paths to increase liquidity, including asset sales and joint venture partnerships [40] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you discuss the drivers behind the accelerated effort on asset sales? - Management indicated that the assets being sold are non-core and not aligned with long-term strategy, with three sales under contract and three more in negotiation, expected to generate $200 million to $225 million [48][49] Question: How has the movement out of LA affected studio production? - Management believes LA remains the entertainment capital and anticipates an uptick in production due to proposed tax credits and city initiatives [51][52] Question: What is the outlook for debt refinancing? - Management is in discussions for secured debt refinancing and is confident about executing it well before expiration at the end of 2025 [56] Question: Is the $0.11 in the fourth quarter a reasonable run rate for next year? - Management advised against using $0.11 as a run rate for next year, suggesting it would be higher due to expected improvements in the entertainment business [59] Question: What is the coverage on lease expirations? - Management stated that the coverage on remaining expirations is 37%, increasing to 55% when accounting for leases and discussions [30]