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Hilltop Holdings(HTH) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Hilltop reported net income of approximately 36millionor36 million or 0.55 per diluted share for Q4 2024, with a return on average assets of 0.9% and return on average equity of 6.5% [10][22] - For the full year 2024, consolidated income attributable to common stockholders was 113million,equatingto113 million, equating to 1.74 per diluted share, with net interest income declining by 11% [25][22] - The common equity Tier 1 capital ratio stood at 21%, and tangible book value per share increased by 1.14to1.14 to 29.49 [21] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - PlainsCapital Bank generated 51millionofpretaxincomeon51 million of pretax income on 13.3 billion of average assets, with a return on average assets of 1.24% [11] - PrimeLending reported a pretax loss of 9.9million,primarilyduetoareductioninoriginationlockvolumes,althoughoriginationvolumeincreasedby9.9 million, primarily due to a reduction in origination lock volumes, although origination volume increased by 438 million compared to Q4 2023 [15][16] - HilltopSecurities generated pretax income of 20milliononnetrevenuesof20 million on net revenues of 125 million, with Public Finance Services seeing a 32% increase in net revenues [17][18] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Average deposit balances at PlainsCapital Bank increased by nearly 600millionduringthequarter,drivenbygrowthinbothcoreinterestbearingandnoninterestbearingdeposits[13]TotalnoninterestincomeforQ42024was600 million during the quarter, driven by growth in both core interest-bearing and non-interest-bearing deposits [13] - Total non-interest income for Q4 2024 was 196 million, with mortgage-related income and fees increasing by 4millioncomparedtoQ42023[38]CompanyStrategyandDevelopmentDirectionThecompanyaimstofocusonriskmanagement,soundbalancesheetpositioning,andlongtermvaluecreationthroughitssynergisticbusinessmodel[9]Hilltopplanstomanageinterestbearingdepositbetasandreduceassetsensitivityovertime,targetingarangeof24 million compared to Q4 2023 [38] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to focus on risk management, sound balance sheet positioning, and long-term value creation through its synergistic business model [9] - Hilltop plans to manage interest-bearing deposit betas and reduce asset sensitivity over time, targeting a range of 2% to 4% [34][84] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted uncertainty in the market regarding interest rates and inflation, but expressed optimism about the company's positioning for long-term success [47] - The outlook for 2025 includes expectations for average bank loan growth between 2% and 5%, with a focus on retaining PrimeLending mortgage loans [44] Other Important Information - Hilltop announced plans to sell its ownership position in Moser Energy Systems, with an estimated after-tax gain of 23 million to 27millionexpectedtocloseinQ12025[27]Theallowanceforcreditlossesdecreasedto27 million expected to close in Q1 2025 [27] - The allowance for credit losses decreased to 101 million, yielding an ACL to total loans HFI ratio of 1.27% as of December 31, 2024 [30] Q&A Session Summary Question: Inquiry about merchant banking gain and capital priorities - Management confirmed that capital priorities remain unchanged despite the expected gain, with a $100 million share repurchase program authorized for the year [54][55] Question: Clarification on loan growth outlook - Management indicated that while there is optimism in the market, actual loan funding may take time to materialize due to the nature of commercial real estate lending [57][60] Question: Discussion on Structured Finance revenues for 2025 - Management noted that revenues could be impacted by state budgeting processes for down payment assistance programs, which are outside their control [78] Question: Inquiry about asset sensitivity and balance sheet management - Management stated that they aim to reduce asset sensitivity over time and are focusing on retaining hybrid mortgages to achieve this goal [82][88] Question: Clarification on provision volatility - Management explained that the volatility in provisions is influenced by economic conditions and specific portfolio activities, particularly in the auto note segment [90][92]