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First Business(FBIZ) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported a 15% increase in earnings from the third quarter and a 24% increase from Q4 2023, even after accounting for unusual items that boosted earnings by about $0.28 [6][8] - Tangible book value per share increased by 23% annualized from the third quarter, and the efficiency ratio improved to its lowest level since Q4 2013 [8][10] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Loan balances grew by $264 million year-over-year, achieving approximately 10% growth, while total deposits increased by $310 million or 11% from last year's fourth quarter [10] - Treasury management fees grew by 11% year-over-year, indicating the addition of new commercial relationships [15][19] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Southeast Wisconsin and Kansas City markets are expected to see continued improvement due to team growth in these areas [16] - The SBA lending team showed solid traction under new leadership, with gains on SBA loan sales and fee income more than doubling compared to the third quarter and tripling from Q4 2023 [17] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims for 10% annual revenue growth and has a five-year plan targeting efficiency improvements, with a goal of achieving an efficiency ratio of less than 60% by 2028 [46][47] - The strategic focus includes revenue diversification and maintaining a stable net interest margin in the range of 360 to 365 basis points [15][19] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in achieving targeted growth rates despite potential economic challenges, emphasizing the importance of maintaining a strong team and culture [49][50] - The company anticipates a strong 2025, with expectations for revenue growth and improved production in various areas [19][88] Other Important Information - The effective tax rate for the fourth quarter was reported at 5.8%, with expectations to maintain a rate between 16% and 18% in 2025 [40][41] - The company has a strong capital position, with CET1 above 9% as of year-end, allowing for organic growth and potential share buybacks [42][95] Q&A Session Summary Question: Loan growth guidance and C&I performance - Management expects C&I to be a larger portion of growth in 2025, with a higher growth rate compared to CRE [52][54] Question: Core deposits and wholesale funding mix - The company aims to maintain a mix of 70% to 80% in market deposits and 20% to 30% in wholesale funding to match fund [58][60] Question: Outlook on loan yields and repricing - Management is optimistic about improving loan yields in 2025, driven by a better mix of C&I business [68][70] Question: Non-accrual loans and reserve levels - The increase in non-accrual loans was primarily due to one C&I relationship, with reserves deemed appropriate for current conditions [78][86] Question: Fee income expectations from SBIC investments - The company expects to grow fee income from SBIC investments by 10% year-over-year, starting from a base of approximately $8 million in Q4 [88] Question: Capital deployment strategy - The primary focus is on organic growth, with dividends and share buybacks considered based on performance [95][97] Question: Efficiency ratio trends - Management anticipates a continued downward trend in the efficiency ratio due to positive operating leverage [100][102]