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Clearwater Paper(CLW) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q4 2024, the company reported $21 million of adjusted EBITDA, a decline from $63 million in the previous year, primarily due to two fewer months of contributions from the divested tissue business and increased maintenance expenses at the Augusta mill [25][26] - For the full year 2024, adjusted EBITDA was $182 million, down from $281 million in 2023, largely driven by a $90 million impact from lower paperboard pricing [26][27] - The company recognized a gain of $307 million from the sale of the tissue business, significantly contributing to full-year net income and allowing for a $199 million reduction in net debt [28] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Augusta acquisition increased paperboard capacity by approximately 70%, expected to contribute $140 million to $150 million of annual adjusted EBITDA once synergies are realized [9][10] - The divestiture of the tissue business was completed on November 1, 2024, allowing the company to focus solely on paperboard operations [10][25] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Industry shipments increased by 4% in 2024 compared to 2023, with projected growth of 3% to 5% in 2025, indicating a recovery towards pre-COVID levels [15] - Industry utilization rates improved to 85% in 2024 from 82% in 2023, although net exports decreased by approximately 250,000 tons due to increased global supply [16] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to strengthen its position as an independent supplier of paperboard packaging products and is exploring opportunities to expand its product offerings, including new applications and substrates [38] - Actions are being taken to reduce costs by targeting $30 million to $40 million in savings across SG&A and operations, including a 10% reduction in workforce [19][33] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about the long-term prospects for paperboard packaging, despite current market challenges, and expects improved operational performance to offset pricing and inflation headwinds [23][32] - The company anticipates a continued demand recovery in 2025, with internal utilization rates projected at around 85% [31] Other Important Information - A new $100 million share repurchase program was authorized, with approximately $9 million repurchased as of February 7, 2025 [14] - Capital expenditures for 2025 are expected to be between $80 million and $90 million, including maintenance CapEx and carryover from large projects [34] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you provide more details on the new agreements and their expected volume ramp-up? - Management indicated that the new agreements are incorporated into 2025 volume assumptions and will take several years to ramp up, potentially filling 150,000 to 200,000 tons of open capacity [46] Question: How do you expect operational performance to offset pricing and inflation headwinds? - Management outlined three areas of improvement: operational performance, fewer disruptions from weather events, and targeted cost reductions of $30 million to $40 million [52] Question: What benefits do you expect from headcount reductions in Q1? - Management expects modest benefits in Q1, with more significant savings ramping up in Q2 and the bulk occurring in the second half of the year [54] Question: How would potential tariffs impact the SBS market? - Management noted that while there would be higher costs from suppliers, the impact is hard to predict, and the goal would be to pass those costs onto customers [59] Question: What is the company's stance on share repurchases given the current stock price? - Management stated that they would be opportunistic in share repurchases but prioritize investing in assets and maintaining a strong balance sheet [61] Question: How is demand trending at the start of the year compared to Q4? - Management reported positive customer conversations and noted that food service demand is more robust than folding carton demand, indicating hopeful signs of recovery [65]