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Rogers (ROG) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
ROGRogers (ROG)2025-02-20 04:05

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Fourth quarter revenues were 192million,adeclineof9192 million, a decline of 9% from the prior quarter, aligning with the guidance midpoint [18][41] - Gross margin for Q4 was 32.1%, approximately 300 basis points lower than Q3 due to volume [18][46] - Full year sales decreased by 9% to 830 million, primarily driven by declines in industrial and EV/HEV markets [18][99] - Adjusted earnings for the full year were 2.72pershare,downfrom2.72 per share, down from 3.78 in 2023 [99] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - AES revenue decreased by 9% to 102millioninQ4,withlowerwirelessinfrastructuresalespartiallyoffsetbyhigherADASrevenue[44][102]EMSrevenuefellbyapproximately8102 million in Q4, with lower wireless infrastructure sales partially offset by higher ADAS revenue [44][102] - EMS revenue fell by approximately 8% to 86 million due to lower industrial sales and seasonal declines in portable electronics [44][102] - Aerospace and defense sales improved sequentially, contributing to a double-digit growth rate for the full year [21][79] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The EV/HEV market saw a significant decline, with curamik power substrate sales dropping substantially due to inventory destocking [14][20] - Industrial sales were lower in Q4 as customers managed year-end inventory levels, consistent with contraction in U.S. and European PMI data [24][80] - Wireless infrastructure sales experienced the largest decline among market segments due to the completion of shipments to an Indian program [25][81] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on operational excellence and innovation, securing new design wins and launching new products [16][26] - A local-for-local manufacturing strategy is being executed, with new facilities in China to support growth and mitigate supply chain risks [35][91] - The company is also enhancing its M&A pipeline, identifying strategic acquisition targets to bolster growth [30][86] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted significant market headwinds in 2024, particularly in industrial and EV/HEV markets, with expectations for a gradual recovery in the second half of 2025 [14][72] - The first quarter of 2025 is expected to be flat in sales, with cautious ordering from customers due to ongoing uncertainties [15][72] - Management remains confident in the company's ability to navigate challenges and position itself for growth when market conditions improve [61][132] Other Important Information - The company generated free cash flow of 71millionin2024,maintainingsimilarlevelstotheprioryear[52][99]An71 million in 2024, maintaining similar levels to the prior year [52][99] - An 8 million impairment related to the ERP system was recorded, offset by a gain from a joint venture separation [51][108] - Capital expenditures for 2024 were $56 million, with expectations to decrease in 2025 as expansion projects conclude [110][111] Q&A Session Summary Question: How should revenue be viewed on a segment and end market basis for Q1? - Management indicated a slight decrease in portable electronics and significant impacts from the curamik business due to inventory issues and EV/HEV slowdowns [122][124] Question: Do you expect to return to positive year-over-year growth by the second half of 2025? - Management expects Q1 to be the low point, with a stronger second half anticipated due to gradual recovery in the curamik market and seasonal improvements in portable electronics [128][132] Question: What actions are being considered to protect margins and cash flow? - Management emphasized ongoing cost control and efficiency improvements as top priorities, with expectations for growth in key segments despite headwinds [130][135]