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Delek Logistics(DKL) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
Delek LogisticsDelek Logistics(US:DKL)2025-02-25 23:33

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q4 2024, the company reported a net loss of $414 million, equating to a negative $6.55 per share, with an adjusted net loss of $161 million or negative $2.54 per share [30] - Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was a loss of $23 million, primarily due to a decrease in refining contributions, which fell by $80 million compared to Q3 2024 [31][32] - Cash flow from operations was a use of $164 million, influenced by a net loss and a $71 million outflow related to working capital movements [33] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The logistics segment delivered $107 million in adjusted EBITDA, continuing its strong performance despite challenges in the refining segment [32] - Total throughput in Tyler for Q4 was approximately 66,000 barrels per day, with a production margin of $6.66 per barrel [19] - In El Dorado, total throughput was approximately 77,000 barrels per day, with a production margin of $0.56 per barrel [20] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The refining margin environment was reported to be around $6 below mid-cycle in Q4 2024, indicating a challenging market [3] - The company noted that supply and marketing contributed a loss of $34.6 million in Q4, driven by seasonal low demand trends [27] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on improving operational performance and profitability through initiatives like the zero-based budget program, which saved around $100 million [12] - A significant part of the strategy includes the economic separation from Delek Logistics, with plans to deconsolidate and enhance shareholder value [11][49] - The company is also pursuing growth in the Permian Basin and expanding its midstream capabilities [10] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about the future, highlighting the successful turnaround at KSR and improved reliability at Big Spring [5][6] - The company anticipates no major turnarounds in 2025, expecting continued operational improvements [6] - Management is optimistic about the potential for regulatory relief regarding small refinery exemptions following a recent court ruling [15][16] Other Important Information - The company completed a major asset sale for $1.49 billion, which has allowed it to progress in a tough refining environment [7] - The company is committed to a disciplined approach to capital allocation, having paid $16 million in dividends and repurchased $22 million of its shares during the quarter [14] Q&A Session Summary Question: What more can be done to make El Dorado a competitive asset? - Management highlighted that El Dorado is a focus area, with efforts to improve product mix and process efficiency, aiming for better performance [42][44] Question: Is the strategy to look for smaller deals while growing DKL EBITDA? - Management confirmed that deconsolidation is ongoing, with a focus on growing third-party EBITDA and enhancing value for both DK and DKL [46][49] Question: Can you explain the supply and marketing dynamics in Q4? - Management noted that seasonal demand weakness impacted performance, but there was an improvement compared to the previous quarter [60][62] Question: What factors are influencing the OpEx guidance for Q1? - Management identified several factors, including the acquisition of Gravity Water Midstream and planned maintenance, affecting the OpEx guidance [72][74] Question: What is the timeline for the DKL unit repurchase program? - Management indicated that the buyback program is set until 2026, aimed at benefiting both companies and enhancing free cash flow [95][96]