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Hyliion (HYLN) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
HYLNHyliion (HYLN)2025-02-26 18:11

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company recorded revenue of 1.5millionforresearchanddevelopmentservicesinQ42024,comparedtonorevenueinQ42023,resultinginanoperatingincomeof1.5 million for research and development services in Q4 2024, compared to no revenue in Q4 2023, resulting in an operating income of 100,000 [37] - Operating expenses decreased to 17.2millioninQ42024from17.2 million in Q4 2024 from 32.6 million in Q4 2023, driven by lower powertrain exit costs and reduced SG&A expenses [38] - The total net loss for Q4 2024 was 14.4million,downfrom14.4 million, down from 29.1 million in Q4 2023 [39] - Full-year operating expenses totaled 64.4millionin2024,significantlylowerthan64.4 million in 2024, significantly lower than 136.3 million in 2023 [40] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company has delivered its first early adopter customer unit, with plans to deliver ten units through mid-2025 [8][21] - Contracts and nonbinding LOIs have been executed for over 100 Carnot units, indicating strong customer interest across various sectors [10][25] - The company expects to generate revenues between 10millionand10 million and 15 million in 2025 from generator sales and R&D activities [21][45] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company is seeing increasing demand for the Carnot generator, with LOIs spanning multiple market segments including EV charging, waste gas applications, oil and gas, and data centers [25] - A significant LOI was signed with a leading data center core for a deployment of two two-megawatt systems, targeting up to 70 megawatts of Carnot generator deployment [27][30] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on scaling manufacturing capacity and strengthening its supply base to support higher production volumes in 2026 [24] - The Carnot generator is positioned as a compact, fuel-agnostic solution with low emissions and maintenance requirements, appealing to data center customers [29] - The company aims to commercialize the Carnot generator in the second half of 2025, with revenue recognition expected from early adopter units [21][45] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about the strong and growing interest from customers, particularly in the data center space [52] - The company is addressing supply chain challenges and has made progress in refining its production processes [17][106] - Management anticipates that the capital on hand will be sufficient to support the commercialization of the Carnot generator [51] Other Important Information - The company received a 6 million Department of Energy grant to support methane emissions reduction in the oil and gas sector [30] - The company has begun recognizing revenue for R&D services related to the Carnot generator, totaling 1.5 million in Q4 2024 [35] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you tell us more about this first early adopter unit and who is it going to and where is it located - The first early adopter unit is going to the US Navy for testing and validation, with plans for deployment in military vessels and stationary applications [56][57] Question: How does Carnot fit in the competitive landscape against fuel cells and traditional natural gas gensets - The Carnot generator offers a compact footprint, fuel flexibility, and low emissions, making it competitive against both fuel cells and natural gas engines [64][68] Question: Can you talk about the visibility you have regarding additive printing and cost reduction - The new GE mLine printer significantly increases production capacity, and the company is also focused on negotiating volume commitments with suppliers to drive down costs [78][84] Question: Can you share more about the Middle East opportunity with Al Khouri - The initial gensets will be used in agricultural applications, providing a modular power solution with lower operating costs and fuel flexibility [88][90] Question: What is the business model moving forward with data centers - Initially, the company will maintain the generators, but long-term partnerships with established service providers are planned for maintenance [95]