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pass Diversified LLC(CODI) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For the full year 2024, the company achieved double-digit sales growth and increased adjusted EBITDA by more than 30% [10] - Consolidated net sales for Q4 were $620.3 million, representing a 13.8% increase year-over-year [36] - Adjusted EBITDA in Q4 was $118 million, a 29% increase compared to the same period in 2023 [38] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The consumer vertical saw pro forma revenues grow double digits, with adjusted EBITDA increasing by over 27% [25] - Lugano reported annual sales growth of more than 50% and adjusted EBITDA of $195 million, a 76.4% increase year-over-year [26] - The industrial segment experienced flat sales and a modest decline in adjusted EBITDA as the company focused on long-term repositioning [29] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The CODI Momentum Index, a gauge of economic activity, currently reads 1.06%, indicating a stable outlook despite a slight decline from year-end levels [18] - Consumer spending remains steady, particularly among higher-income consumers, which is expected to benefit the company's portfolio [19] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is shifting focus to more innovative and disruptive businesses to drive long-term value creation [11] - Strategic acquisitions included the purchase of Honey Pot and Lifoam, while divesting Ergobaby and the Crosman airgun business to optimize long-term focus [12] - The company aims to identify and support strong businesses with innovative and sustainable models, guided by a buy, build, and grow philosophy [21] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management remains cautiously optimistic about prospects for 2025, expecting resilience and growth in the economy [17] - The company is monitoring geopolitical uncertainties and believes its subsidiaries are well-positioned to navigate the evolving tariff landscape [20] - The outlook for 2025 includes expected adjusted EBITDA between $570 million and $610 million, with a focus on growth investments [43] Other Important Information - The company raised over $115 million in preferred equity in 2024 to improve its capital structure [13] - A revised management services agreement aims to reduce long-term costs for shareholders and align management compensation with shareholder interests [15] Q&A Session Summary Question: Guidance on branded and industrial growth - Management indicated that growth from Lugano is expected to continue, but they have a more modest overall growth forecast [53][54] Question: Impact of PFAS charge on 5.11% - The $11 million charge related to PFAS regulations was noted, and management confirmed that adjusted EBITDA would have been significantly higher without this charge [57][58] Question: Tariff exposure and portfolio positioning - Management discussed the proactive steps taken to diversify supply chains and mitigate tariff impacts, feeling well-positioned compared to competitors [66][70] Question: M&A activity outlook for 2025 - Management expressed optimism about the M&A environment improving slightly in 2025, with a focus on acquiring innovative and disruptive businesses [72][74] Question: Performance of Lugano and EBITDA margins - Management attributed strong EBITDA margins at Lugano to operational leverage and effective buying strategies, while also noting potential margin dilution from new salon openings [86][88]