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Fuel Tech(FTEK) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
FTEKFuel Tech(FTEK)2025-03-06 01:30

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Consolidated revenues for 2024 were 25.1million,atthelowerendoftheguidancerangeof25.1 million, at the lower end of the guidance range of 25 million to 26million,reflectinga1726 million, reflecting a 17% decrease in total APC segment revenue, partially offset by a 2% increase in FUEL CHEM revenue [7][32] - Consolidated gross margin for 2024 marginally decreased to 42% from 43% in the previous year, with a decline in both APC and FUEL CHEM gross margins [33] - Net loss for 2024 was 1.9 million or 0.06perdilutedshare,comparedtoanetlossof0.06 per diluted share, compared to a net loss of 1.5 million or 0.05perdilutedsharein2023[35]BusinessLineDataandKeyMetricsChangesFUELCHEMsegmentrevenuewasessentiallyunchangedat0.05 per diluted share in 2023 [35] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - FUEL CHEM segment revenue was essentially unchanged at 3.5 million, while APC segment revenue declined to 1.8millionfrom1.8 million from 2.8 million due to project execution timing [27][32] - APC gross margin declined to 36% from 55%, primarily due to product mix and lower segment revenue, while FUEL CHEM gross margin declined to 45% from 48% [28] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Consolidated APC segment backlog at December 31, 2024, was 6.2millioncomparedto6.2 million compared to 7.5 million at the end of 2023, with expectations for backlog to improve steadily through the first half of 2025 [28][29] - The company is pursuing opportunities in the municipal solid waste market driven by state-specific regulatory requirements, with potential awards expected in the near term [14] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is optimistic about exceeding 30millionintotalrevenuesfor2025,withexpectationsthatbothbusinesssegmentswilloutperformtheir2024performance[24][25]ThecompanyisfocusingonthecommercializationofitsDGItechnologyandpursuingmultipleendmarkets,includingaquaculture,wastewatertreatment,andothers[22][24]ManagementsCommentsonOperatingEnvironmentandFutureOutlookManagementexpressedrenewedoptimismfor2025,citingimprovedperformanceintheFUELCHEMbusinesssegmentandastrongportfolioofAPCbusinessopportunities[9][14]ThecompanydoesnotexpectspecificregulatorytailwindsfromnewregulationsbutismonitoringthestatusofexistingregulationsthatcouldimpactfutureNOxregulationsforclients[16][20]OtherImportantInformationThecompanyended2024withcash,cashequivalents,andinvestmentsofapproximately30 million in total revenues for 2025, with expectations that both business segments will outperform their 2024 performance [24][25] - The company is focusing on the commercialization of its DGI technology and pursuing multiple end markets, including aquaculture, wastewater treatment, and others [22][24] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed renewed optimism for 2025, citing improved performance in the FUEL CHEM business segment and a strong portfolio of APC business opportunities [9][14] - The company does not expect specific regulatory tailwinds from new regulations but is monitoring the status of existing regulations that could impact future NOx regulations for clients [16][20] Other Important Information - The company ended 2024 with cash, cash equivalents, and investments of approximately 30 million and no long-term debt, maintaining a strong financial position [8][36] - SG&A expenses increased to 13.8 million in 2024, reflecting higher employee-related costs, with expectations for a modest increase in 2025 [33] Q&A Session Summary Question: Outlook for 2025 revenues - Management confirmed that the 30 million revenue outlook includes expected contributions from new APC orders and some contributions from FUEL CHEM accounts [43][44] Question: Gross margin expectations - Management expects a return to historical gross margin levels for FUEL CHEM in the range of 49% to 50% for 2025, while APC margins are expected to remain in the 35% to 38% range [53][55] Question: Data center opportunities - Management highlighted that data centers are increasingly requiring nitrogen oxide controls due to regulatory requirements, and the company is actively bidding on related projects [86][126] Question: Potential for M&A or stock buybacks - Management is exploring small acquisition opportunities and licensing technologies that could benefit the company, while stock buyback discussions are ongoing [114][116]