Ampco-Pittsburgh(AP) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Ampco-Pittsburgh Corporation reported earnings per common share of $0.16 for Q4 2024 and$ 0.02 for the full year [7] - Net cash flow from operating activities was $7.5 million for Q4 and$ 18 million for 2024 [8] - Consolidated net sales for Q4 2024 were $100.9 million, a decline of 6.6% compared to Q4 2023 [28] - Net income attributable to Ampco-Pittsburgh for Q4 2024 was$ 3.1 million, compared to a net loss of $41.8 million in Q4 2023 [35] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Air and Liquid Processing segment achieved record sales for 2024, improving 11% from the prior year [9] - The Forged and Cast Engineered Products segment reported total net sales of$ 66.5 million in Q4 2024, down from $75.8 million in Q4 2023 [20] - Operating income for the Forged and Cast Engineered Products segment reached$ 10.5 million for the full year 2024, up from $7.6 million in 2023 [22] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - North America and Europe remained stable markets, with Europe experiencing market softness [23] - The company anticipates increased demand in the U.S. due to potential tariffs, slightly offset by lower demand in Mexico and stable demand in Europe [24] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on turning Air and Liquid into a growth-oriented business, with revenue 56% higher than three years ago [18] - A formal collective consultation process has been initiated for the UK plant to address ongoing losses [10][45] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted that the UK plant has faced significant losses and a sustainable path forward is uncertain without intervention [44] - The U.S. Navy's expansion plans and activity in the nuclear market are expected to drive future growth opportunities [51] Other Important Information - The total backlog at December 31, 2024, was$ 378.9 million, flat compared to December 31, 2023 [36] - Capital expenditures for full-year 2024 were $12.2 million, including final capitalization of the U.S. Forged plant modernization [38] Q&A Session Summary Question: Clarification on the UK situation and potential plant closure - Management indicated that significant losses have occurred in the UK, and without intervention, a sustainable path forward is not visible. The collective consultation process may lead to various outcomes, including potential closure [44][46] Question: Potential for market expansion in the air and liquid division - Management noted that there is increased activity in current markets, particularly with the U.S. Navy and nuclear sector, and opportunities for expansion beyond North America [51] Question: Debt levels and future CapEx plans - Management stated that debt levels are flat year-over-year, and future CapEx is expected to remain stable, supported by government grants [52][94] Question: Year-end backlog by business segment - The total backlog was reported as flat at$ 379 million, with $250.5 million in Forged and Cast Engineered Products and$ 128.4 million in Air and Liquid Processing [68] Question: Asbestos-related revaluations frequency - Management indicated that asbestos-related revaluations will likely be conducted annually moving forward to stay on top of changes [70]