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Portman Ridge(PTMN) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For Q4 2024, Portman generated 14.4millionofinvestmentincome,adecreaseof14.4 million of investment income, a decrease of 0.8 million compared to 15.2millioninQ32024,primarilyduetolowerinvestmentincomefromnetrepaymentsandsalesof15.2 million in Q3 2024, primarily due to lower investment income from net repayments and sales of 19.2 million and decreases in base rates [19][20] - Total expenses for Q4 2024 were 8.9million,adecreaseof8.9 million, a decrease of 0.5 million from 9.4millioninQ32024,mainlyduetoloweraveragedebtoutstandingandareductioninspreadontheJPMorgancreditfacility[20]NetinvestmentincomeforQ42024was9.4 million in Q3 2024, mainly due to lower average debt outstanding and a reduction in spread on the JPMorgan credit facility [20] - Net investment income for Q4 2024 was 5.5 million or 0.60pershare,adecreaseof0.60 per share, a decrease of 0.3 million or 0.03persharefromthepriorquarter[20]Netassetvalue(NAV)asofDecember31,2024,was0.03 per share from the prior quarter [20] - Net asset value (NAV) as of December 31, 2024, was 178.5 million, a decrease of 9.5millionfrom9.5 million from 180 million in the prior quarter, with a per share NAV decrease of 0.95[20][21]BusinessLineDataandKeyMetricsChangesTheinvestmentportfolioatyearendremainedhighlydiversified,withadebtinvestmentportfolio(excludingCLOfunds,equities,andjointventures)spreadacross26differentindustries[15]Nonaccrualinvestmentsdecreasedfrom9asofSeptember30,2024,to6asofDecember31,2024,improvingoverallassetquality[9][16]MarketDataandKeyMetricsChangesApproximately90.10.95 [20][21] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The investment portfolio at year-end remained highly diversified, with a debt investment portfolio (excluding CLO funds, equities, and joint ventures) spread across 26 different industries [15] - Nonaccrual investments decreased from 9 as of September 30, 2024, to 6 as of December 31, 2024, improving overall asset quality [9][16] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Approximately 90.1% of the debt securities portfolio was floating rate as of December 31, 2024, linked to interest rate indices such as SOFR [12] - Originations for the quarter were higher than the previous quarter but below repayment and sales levels, resulting in net repayments and sales of approximately 19.2 million [13] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The proposed merger with Logan Ridge is seen as a significant milestone in the long-term growth strategy, aimed at creating a stronger, more competitive combined company with increased scale and operational efficiencies [6][7] - The company is focused on disciplined capital management and prudent portfolio management initiatives to drive shareholder value [7][10] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the credit quality of the portfolio and the ability to drive the best outcomes for shareholders despite idiosyncratic challenges [5] - The company anticipates being active in the market and net deployers of capital in 2025, aiming to restore net investment income to more normalized levels [10][11] Other Important Information - The Board of Directors approved a modification of the dividend policy to introduce quarterly base distributions and supplemental distributions, with a base distribution of 0.47pershareandasupplementalcashdistributionof0.47 per share and a supplemental cash distribution of 0.07 per share for Q1 2025 [9][10] - The company repurchased 202,357 shares of common stock for approximately 3.8million,whichwasaccretivetoNAVby3.8 million, which was accretive to NAV by 0.07 per share [10] Q&A Session Summary Question: What was the generator of the realized loss in the quarter? - The realized loss was primarily from former nonaccrual investments in Robertshaw and Palmer, as well as CLOs, with significant contributions from STG Logistics [28] Question: How much of the repurchases contributed to NAV in the quarter? - The repurchases were accretive, contributing about 40 basis points to net per share quarter-over-quarter [30] Question: What levers are being considered to improve returns given lower base rates and spread compression? - Cost savings from the merger, reduced administrative costs, and waived incentive fees were highlighted as key strategies [32][34] Question: Can you provide details on the current mix of new versus add-on investments? - The pipeline has seen fluctuations, with a preference for incremental opportunities in existing portfolio companies due to better understanding and pricing [41][42] Question: How did the nonaccrual resolutions come to fruition? - Continuous engagement with portfolio companies led to resolutions, including a merger that converted some debt into reinstated debt [46] Question: Can you elaborate on the dividend policy restructuring? - The change was influenced by industry trends, aiming for a base plus supplemental structure to adapt to volatility in short-term rates [52][55] Question: What is the current capacity for net deployments? - The company has a net deployment capacity of approximately $19 million, with additional capacity from cash on the balance sheet [74][82] Question: Were there any changes to the internal watch list investments this quarter? - There were no significant negative credit surprises, and the number of watch list investments remained stable [86][90]