PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust(PMT) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For Q1 2025, the company reported a net loss to common shareholders of $1 million, translating to a diluted earnings per share of negative $0.01 [4][17] - The book value per share as of March 31 was $15.43, a modest decline from December 31 [5] - The run rate return potential decreased to an average of $0.35 per share from $0.37 in the prior quarter [24] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The credit-sensitive strategies contributed $1 million to pre-tax income, while losses from organically created CRT investments were $5 million [17] - The interest rate-sensitive strategies reported a pre-tax loss of $5 million, with fair value declines on MSR investments amounting to $56 million [18] - Total correspondent loan acquisition volume was $23 billion, down 18% from the prior quarter, with PMT acquiring $3 billion, a 20% decrease [20][21] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Current third-party estimates for industry originations are projected to average $2 trillion in 2025, indicating growth in overall volumes [5] - Delinquency rates for borrowers in PMT's MSR portfolio remain low, attributed to strong consumer credit and accumulated home equity [13] Company Strategy and Development Direction - PMT's relationship with PFSI provides competitive advantages, leveraging PFSI's operating platform and access to the origination market [7][8] - The company aims to continue closing approximately one securitization of non-owner-occupied loans per month and one jumbo loan securitization per quarter starting in Q2 [11] - PMT is focused on increasing investments in credit-sensitive strategies while maintaining a stable dividend of $0.40 per share [57] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in navigating a volatile market, emphasizing strong risk management practices [6][15] - The company expects to see increased correspondent activity and maintains a positive outlook on the $2 trillion origination market despite current volatility [50] Other Important Information - PMT completed three securitizations of investor loans totaling $1 billion in unpaid principal balance during Q1 [10] - The fair value of PMT's MSR asset at the end of the quarter was $3.8 billion, slightly down from December 31 [19] Q&A Session Summary Question: Changes in book value and expected ROE since quarter end - Management noted a decrease in book value by about 2% to 3% due to interest rate volatility and credit spread widening, but expressed satisfaction with the hedging program [31] Question: Expectation of acquiring a larger percentage of loans from PFSI - Management indicated that the focus is on capital deployment where most advantageous, and does not expect an increase in the proportion of loans retained in the back half of the year [37] Question: Outlook for dividend given lowered run rate earnings - Management expects the dividend to remain stable despite fluctuations in run rate, attributing the decline primarily to the yield curve shape [56] Question: Return expectations on new loan securitizations amid spread widening - Management stated that return targets on subordinate bonds have increased to mid-teens due to credit spread widening, which supports ongoing securitization activities [64]