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Air Products and Chemicals(APD) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The second quarter adjusted earnings per share (EPS) was $2.69, below previous guidance of $2.75 to $2.85, primarily due to changes in cost estimates and lower helium contributions [20][24] - Sales volume decreased by 3%, with 2% attributed to the LNG business divestment, while total company price increased by 1% [20][21] - Adjusted operating income decreased by 9%, mainly due to LNG divestiture and unfavorable helium impact, with operating margin down by 210 basis points [21][22] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The core industrial gas business generated approximately $12 billion in sales with an operating margin of 24% [6] - The LNG business divestiture accounted for a $0.12 headwind on EPS, while helium volume was down, offset by favorable on-site volumes [22][23] - The company anticipates base business growth of 2% to 5% for the fiscal year despite a 5% headwind in helium [24] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company has become the leading supplier of hydrogen and high purity gases for the electronics industry, with significant pipeline networks in the U.S. Gulf Coast [4][5] - The company expects to unlock significant potential with projects in Saudi Arabia and Louisiana, aiming for a 30% adjusted operating margin by 2030 [17][18] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company plans to refocus on its core industrial gas business and invest approximately $1.5 billion per year in industrial gas projects [10][11] - The strategy includes canceling underperforming projects and prioritizing high-return opportunities with contracted take-or-pay agreements [12][14] - The company aims to maximize profitability through operational excellence and rightsizing the organization [15][17] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed cautious optimism regarding green hydrogen projects in Saudi Arabia and Louisiana, focusing on derisking strategies [11][12] - The company anticipates high single-digit adjusted EPS growth and improved operating margins in the coming years, despite challenges from underperforming projects [17][18] - Management emphasized the importance of transparent communication with investors and a disciplined approach to capital allocation [18] Other Important Information - The company has identified approximately 2,400 positions for reduction, aiming for a run rate of around $100 million in savings from FY 2025 actions [50][51] - The total cost for the net zero hydrogen project in Edmonton is now expected to be $3.3 billion, with a projected on-stream date between late 2027 and early 2028 [14] Q&A Session Summary Question: What is the EBITDA contribution from underperforming projects? - Management expects to recover capital on an undiscounted basis, indicating a challenging situation with significant increases in capital costs [28][29] Question: What is the status of the Alberta project? - The Alberta project has faced delays and cost overruns due to construction challenges and contractor productivity issues [29][31] Question: What is the rationale for pursuing ammonia in Louisiana? - The company is considering focusing solely on hydrogen, aiming to reduce total CapEx while securing firm offtake agreements [40][41] Question: What is the expected contribution from helium? - Helium remains a volatile earnings contributor, with expectations of continued headwinds in pricing through 2026 and 2027 [78][80] Question: What are the cash flow expectations for 2026? - The company anticipates being cash flow positive, including dividends, with a focus on managing capital expenditures effectively [74][86]